the beyond

[PR3SSUR3]

There's good incoherency and bad incoherency

Highly subjective to one's perceptions, of course.

David Lynch made such aspects of Eraserhead acceptable though his enticing surreal vision, high on atmosphere and visual provocation.

(Un Chien Andalou).

Likewise, Lucio Fulci 'gets away with' inexplicable contrivances and spontaneous plot shifts - partly because The Beyond is a 'Fulci film', and partly because his work is quintessential 80s Italian gore also loaded with atmosphere and visual provocation.

It's horses for courses - many find The Beyond inoffensive in its loose plotting, yet decide some of Lynch and Takashi Miike's work is pretentious and baffling.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
It's funny, as a teenager I wouldn't entertain what I saw as cheap, unsatisfying (even offensive) eurotrash when it came to Italian exploitation. I needed the reassurance of Hollywood's values, the certainty of where the stories were heading, the rush of excitement from hip and expensive American productions making us feel good about ourselves as the end credits roll.

thats pretty funny because as a younger fella i was head over heals in love with eurotrash .. video had just been made available and i ate up every single horror film i could get my hands on .. 100s of movies i'd have never gotten exposure to before coming from a small canadian town.

i dubbed everything .. no matter how obscure or small budget .. and this is where my love for the italian zombie films started..

i still like a lot of them .. and i still have a huge soft spot for the genre but i've never found fulci to be that great... i didnt much like zombi2 (or whatever its called wherever) except for a couple of scenes ,, and i'm past the point where a couple of cool gore scenes will carry a movie for me ..

eraserhead, chien andalou .. these were crazy films .. drug induced nightmares .. to me - whereas i found the beyond to be a patchwork quilt of 'lets do this .. lets do that - this will look cool ... just a series if unrelated shorts clumbsily fashioned into some semblance of a complete piece ..

maybe if that attemp hadnt been made i'd like it better . i dunno ... there was so much that i thought was just plain stupid .. (the woman in the morgue who somehow got melted even though she was nowhere near the goop that spilled to melt her ..)

the water dripping from the toip of the basement wall (the water line was 3 feet below that at least ...
i know that gets to sound like nit picking very fast ... but i could go on for 30 other points ...

it doesnt have to flow or make sense .. i just didnt find any of the imagry that interesting ... until the very end i guess .. ("walking into the painting") .. i like a bleak ending ..

its just that i never gave a shit about what would happen to anyone in the movie .. or why, or how ...

explaining it to this extent sounds petty i guess .. i know that ... better to say it just didnt hit me . it was the wrong timing for me ..


(story of ricky ... theres some crazy shit i loved)

[The_Return]

Originally posted by urgeok
...but having 1st seen it just 1 year ago (with huge expectations) i was dissapointed ..

Strange words coming from someone who often calls out the evils of watching movies with high expectations.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by The_Return
Strange words coming from someone who often calls out the evils of watching movies with high expectations.

yep, but i never said it didnt happen to me !

got bit right on the ass

[PR3SSUR3]

It's all a bit Beyond me.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
It's all a bit Beyond me.

try a different gate :D

[NECRO666]

I won't shut the fuck up asshole. Ok I'm not saying bitchs to woman just the hookers fuck head. And about those bitchs I was talking about ny ripper. If you offened about me saying hookers are bitchs then to fucking bad. :mad:

[PR3SSUR3]

My mother's a hooker, but if I ever called her a bitch I'd better run goddammit.

:eek:

[hollywoodgothiq]

That's funny, cause my mom's a bitch, but if I ever called her a hooker, I'd better scram fast!

[Elvis_Christ]

Originally posted by NECRO666
I won't shut the fuck up asshole.

Whatever fine by me. Carry on with your retarded posts and look like a moronic fuckwit with the grammar skills of a pile of dogshit.