Abortion - actual thread

[orangestar]

I voted that I was totally against it, but....
If you are raped, and you dont have a partial birth abortion, then you are ok in my book.People should be responsible for themselves when having sex, and when people arent, that is wat adoption agencies are for, but I were raped I would hate to have to tell my child that they were created in that horrible way.

[Sam The Egg]

BTW, I'm glad nobody's used the "You could be killing the next Einstein" shit so far. That's the dumbest thing ever.

[fluffho]

why are peopel always so optimistic

maybe theyre killing the next hitler hmmm?

[VampRocker]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Ok, let's assume that humans are mammals for a moment.

The characteristics of mammals include the following:


I've bolded the two important ones. Now, according to this site,


I'm assuming that the skeletal system includes the backbone, since it's not mentioned anywhere before it. Also,


in 8 weeks the organs are in place. Lungs aren't mentioned before this, so let's assume that the lungs are included with the organs. That's 6 weeks until the backbone is developed and 8 weeks until the lungs are in place. 2 whole months before you could even say it's a mammal.

The fact that you try to justify abortion appalls me. It's not a choice. At all. Why do you think life comes into existance after a few essential organs are developed? Don't you think there's more to it than that? I'm not God, and I certainly can't explain what's "right" and what's "wrong," but at least I have such respect for human that I don't take a pair of thongs and simply end the process of a childs existance everytime I think it won't be convenient for me to have a kid.

Naw, I take that back. Abortion is done by doctors. By doctors! They went to overpriced schools and wear stethescopes around their necks! They have to know what's right! Thanks, Sam, you've saved me years of trouble!

[Sam The Egg]

All you have in response is sarcasm? Tsk tsk.

Let me ask you something (two things). Are you in favor of the death penalty? Are you a vegitarian?

[fluffho]

so are you saying my brainless neighbor sholdve been kept on life support then? she was dead before they pulled the plug. and without the brain, the baby is nothing

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by fluffho
why are peopel always so optimistic

maybe theyre killing the next hitler hmmm?

My point exactly. You can't say 'what if' as a reason, because if you do that then every other 'what if' is just as valid.

[Sam The Egg]

And if you'd bothered to read the rest of the thread, you'd know that I'm not really all that in favor of abortion, I'm simply in favor of the availability of it for those who aren't against it. But you're right, I'm a murderer.

[VampRocker]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
All you have in response is sarcasm? Tsk tsk.

Let me ask you something (two things). Are you in favor of the death penalty? Are you a vegitarian?

Laaame.

You've never used sarcasm on this board? Get over yourself, jackass.

As for the death penalty, it depends. I'm sure you can agree. If a man killed my mother, my father and all of my friends, I would want him put to death. If an unborn child murdered all of those people...I'd sooo abort the little bastard!

I'm not vegitarian. Yes, very clever of you. The "animals have lives, too" card. Sorry, they're only here for eating, pal. Stop eating tofu and kill a cow -- welcome to the food chain.

Oh, wait, does "vegitarian" mean "the consumption of unborn children?" If so, then your point would have been valid, whatever point you were trying to make. And no, I don't eat them, if you were wondering. Well, the ones that aren't "fully developed," at least.

[Wicked Lady]

Why does everything always come down to science? What about the soul factor?
What if YOU would have been aborted? Does anyone think of that? Why should we, mortal humans deside whether or not this child should live? What gives us the right? It is NOT a part of the mother's body it is NOT for her to deside whether or not it is worthy of life beyond the womb...

The very fact that a living thing becomes a bloody glob in the garbage, disgusts me...

A human is human no matter how many differant ways you try to say it isn't...