"Save" Us All....

[kpropain]

I'm not being "nasty about" "IT"

I just have absoultely no belief in "IT" or any other fairy tales, fables or other "GARBAGE" that so many people personally cling to !!!!!!

[monalisa]

Originally posted by kpropain
I'm not being "nasty about" "IT"

I just have absoultely no belief in "IT" or any other fairy tales, fables or other "GARBAGE" that so many people personally cling to !!!!!!

No no no no! I didn't mean that you were being nasty about it, I was thinking more of the shit going on in the middle east.

[monalisa]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
lol...Wu's back

Who IS he or she or whatever?

[PR3SSUR3]

A kiddie fiddler, if it's the same one.

Speaking of which, "Love the sinner, hate the sin" is just fine for the Catholic church - a paedophile priest is not considered incompetent in his work by his superiors.

Atheists are the way we are because when you don't really believe in anything, there is less conflict with other people. You don't really have to force something on someone else, you have yourself to believe in, and you can live without having to worry every second that if you do something minor wrong that you're going to hell. Just explaining my view of things

You would be better off becoming agnostic, since your active atheism is always going to cause problems with your Christian friends.

Remember - in times of doubt, refer to...

HDC; Thread Id 22829; 6th page; 6th post down; 6 paragraphs; 26/6/06

...for reassurance

[noctuary]

Originally posted by kpropain
Religion is the cyanide of the masses!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I may sig this at some point, would you mind?

Anyway, VC, if the girl doesn't care enough about you to accept you as who you are, you're better off without her. Sounds harsh, but it's the truth. Anyone who is going to try to change you like that is never going to be happy with you, no matter how much you change.

[horrorobsessed]

i don't really know how i stand religous wise. i mean i used to go to church when my mom made me go with my sister. i thought it was so boring and would usually end up falling asleep. and the sunday school classes sucked because i wasn't very social.
now though, i don't go to church, but i kinda believe in god. i mean, i don't pray and i don't depend on him, but i think he's up there.........maybe. with all of the stuff that's happened to me and my family over the years it makes my question whether he's up there or not, doubt it though.




I'M SO CONFUSED.

anyways, if your girlfriend really did love you she wouldn't have dumped you because you wouldn't change your thoughts or beliefs. i know that if someone tried to change me in any way i'd tell him to hit the fucking road.

[VampiricClown]

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[orangestar]

Originally posted by VampiricClown
lol, I've done the Agnostic thing. That didn't work out for me. But thanks for the suggestion. And what is the thread you're talking about??

I think this thread has sort of gotten out of hand. I didn't want this to become a religious debate. I was asking if when religion is involved in a relationship, if that can affect one or both members.

Religion has brought me a lot closer to some of my friends, and it has ended other friendships (based on their decisions not to be friends with me because I believe in God). Although I think it is important, I don't think religion should be a factor in deciding who to be in a relationship with.

[PR3SSUR3]

lol, I've done the Agnostic thing. That didn't work out for me. But thanks for the suggestion. And what is the thread you're talking about??

I think this thread has sort of gotten out of hand. I didn't want this to become a religious debate. I was asking if when religion is involved in a relationship, if that can affect one or both members

To clarify agnosticism, you would be taking the stance that God is unknown, or unknowable. Asserting no knowledge of Gods, there are no reasons to believe in them or not to believe in them. The rumour that agnostics must also believe in another 'higher force' is unfounded, since they believe nothing which cannot be demostrated by the senses.

Atheism however is the denial of God, and more an 'alternative' to Christianity. This seems rather fake by comparison, and considered by some as a religion in itself. What is the point in it? 'Rebellion', most likely.

Threads do not get out of hand just because the discussion twists and turns a little - religion is one of the hot topics where it is likely to do so.

The last religion thread has been locked away in that place at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[Vodstok]

Hoo boy.. My turn...:)

My opinion is very complex and, well, opinionated. Number one, i am an atheist. Without som enice, hard proof, i dont believe. Yes, i have an absolute 100% lack of faith.

Now, I have a great deal of respect for some people with faith. People who have a religious belief that does not interfere with the world around them and helps them out, makes them a better person, gives them hope, whatever. I'm cool with that.


People who wear it like a badge, i cant stand. 8its really nothign to be proud of, so get over it. Its like being proud that you believe wearing green makes you taller. it just is.


Grand-Standing religious moralizers are a blight on the face of the earth and should be eradicated by any means necesarry. This includes the Taliban, Jerry Falwell, and any other religious people that would use their beleifs as an excuse to wage war or hate.

Born Again religious people are pathetic and stupid. they are mostly people who were fuck ups in life that have discovered that tellign other people they are shit makes them feel better about all the bad stuff they feel guilty about. like oh, say, being a straight c student (because dad was only that rich) who used har ddrugs and got a DUI long before he became "reformed" and rose to a position of extreme power because of the people who had a vested interest in his success. Not that we know anyone like that.

Those are the kinds of people who take the "moral high ground" on issues that dont personally affect them AT ALL(like abortion), but "regret" to have to tell people that they did something wrong, like perhaps being close buddies with Kenneth Lay (however you spell that dickhead's name) and having to publically decry the horrific crime he perpetrated, even though deep down inside you applaud him for having the balls to run off with the profits. but then again, not that we know of anyone like that.

Now, to qualify somehting so that everyone thinks that Atheism is not a religion... It is. its not particularly organised, but it is a strongly held belief system that people will defend vehemently and angrily. And i have known people who basically "preached the gospel" of atheism. I hate these people with the same passion i have for all zealots.


So, VC... She could not be more pathetic or wrong. She was "Born Again"? So, she is basically a weak minded moron who just so happened to be in the right place at the right time for those manipulative jerkoffs to mold her weak mind into believeing that if she joins their "cult" that she will be a better person than everyone who hasnt. She is now free to look down on Buddhists, Muslums, hindus, and even people who dont follow her particular sect of christianity. let the Judgement Begin!!


Consider it a blessing. People who become born again just managed to get snagged by a major religion before finding a cult or Scientology. (which is a cult)