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Old 02-17-2009, 06:39 PM
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That's something that people do who argue....they reverse blame. For those that debate---even upon disagreements still come up with logical counterpoints not fallacies or assertions. And with your context, that's something everyone not just politicans do.
Not gonna disagree with you but it's also important to keep one's cool. When heated, a debate can slide into argument as easily as boiled water turns to steam. ;)
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:34 PM
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[QUOTE=Leprucky Cougar;789351]In some Clintons supporters' mind, it was Hillary not Obama that was the most attractive option in the lesson---remember how nasty the primaries were in the spring, when she was hammering the Obama campaign with the experience and credibility debate.

And not everyone knew much of nothing about Obama. Perhaps those that have a disinterest in politics--QUOTE]

What I was trying to say was, I believed America was more attracted to the idea of a black president than a female president-in general. I'm not reffering to those who keep up with politics, but more of the voters with a "disinterest in politics" who helped turn out record numbers in the polls. Yes I remember the "hammering" she handed him, I believe it was due more to the allure of his image than to his message that pulled him through.

I can't help but remember the images of Oprah and many other colored Americans crying when he won, and the idea that those powerful emotions effected countless numbers of 'first time voters' at the booths. I know a lot of black people who thought Clinton was as close a black president as they would get. And I think everyone knew if Obama beat out Hillary, he would be a shoe in for President, everybody knew it. It was the 'attraction' of a black president, in the long run, that won Obama the election.

I don't mean to discredit Obama in any way. I believe he is more than capable of performing his duties as President. Hell, I'm an American, and I don't care who the President is- as long it's not Bush- just like the rest of us.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:33 PM
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