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Ah, no, we don't have brown sauce here in the US. I think either we have discussed this here, or I saw the discussion on another board. I looked it up on Ebay, seems like a worthwhile sauce.

What we have here in the US, in profusion, is barbecue sauce. A million different brands, in bottles of all sizes. It is also brown in color. Go ANYWHERE--the local grocery store, the convenience store, the laundry service--and you are likely to find barbecue sauce in some form. For people who are rich, there is gourmet bbq sauce. For people who are poor, you can get a gallon of the cheap stuff for $1.50. Barbecuing is fun but I think there is something weird going on here.
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Pretty popular over here too. Our top sauces are Heinz Ketchup, HP (the official sauce of britain so they say) or Daddies brown sauce, and just about any Barbecure sauce you can find. Theres some of our HP ones.
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Barbecue sauce basicly is brown sauce, I was wondering what the hell it was when I got to the u.k, then I ate a packet of it and it's just the same.
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Barbecue sauce basicly is brown sauce, I was wondering what the hell it was when I got to the u.k, then I ate a packet of it and it's just the same.
hmmm. Maybe because I have equal amounts of both, i can taste it.

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HP Sauce is a condiment; a popular brown sauce formerly produced in Aston, Birmingham, England, by HP Foods but now produced by H.J. Heinz in Elst, the Netherlands. It has a malt vinegar base blended with fruit and spices and is usually eaten as an adjunct to hot or cold savoury food, or used as an ingredient in soups or stews. It is the most well known brand of brown sauce in the United Kingdom as well as the best selling, with 71% of the UK market.[1]

The original recipe for HP Sauce was invented and developed by Frederick Gibson Garton, a grocer from Nottingham. He registered the name H.P. Sauce in 1896. Garton called the sauce HP because he had heard that a restaurant in the Houses of Parliament had begun serving it. For many years the bottle labels have carried a picture of the Palace of Westminster. Garton sold the recipe and HP brand for the sum of £150 and the settlement of some unpaid bills to Edwin Samson Moore. Moore, the founder of the Midlands Vinegar Company (the forerunner of HP Foods) subsequently launched HP Sauce in 1903.

Some stories suggest that the name HP was derived from the name Harry Palmer.[citation needed] Palmer was said to have invented the recipe and sold the product as "Harry Palmer's Famous Epsom Sauce". The story then goes that Palmer, an avid gambler at the Epsom Races, was forced to sell the recipe to Garton to cover his debts. However, there is no evidence in the official history of the brand to show Palmer existed, or had any claim to the development of the recipe. It also seems unlikely that Garton, a grocer from the Midlands would have come in contact with a gambler from the South of England.

HP Sauce became known as "Wilson's Gravy" in the 1960s and 1970s after Harold Wilson, the Labour Prime Minister. The name arose after Wilson's wife, Mary, gave an interview to the Sunday Times in which she claimed "If Harold has a fault, it is that he will drown everything with HP Sauce". Private Eye's Parliamentary news section is called "HP Sauce". In 1975, when Wilson addressed a banquet to celebrate 100 years since the formation of the Midlands Vinegar Company, he admitted that it was not HP Sauce that he was partial to, but was in fact Lea & Perrins Worcestershire Sauce.

For many years the description on the label was in both English and French. During a 1960s, BBC radio broadcast Marty Feldman sang the French version in the style of Jacques Brel. Whether or not the BBC performance has been archived is not known, but the song was also included on Feldman's 1969 album I feel a song going off.

The Aston factory (at 52°29′56″N 1°53′06″W / 52.4989, -1.8849) was once bisected by the A38(M) motorway and had a pipeline, carrying vinegar over the motorway, from the Top Yard to the main Tower Road factory site. The Top Yard site was subsequently closed, and vinegar was not brewed on the Aston site during the last few years of production there. Ansells' brewery was adjacent to the factory.

Because of its Houses of Parliament labelling, HP Sauce had colonial connotations for many consumers in both Ulster and the Republic of Ireland. By the late 1940s, Crosse and Blackwell (Ireland) Ltd was marketing a brand called TD Sauce (TD is the Irish equivalent of MP), with the label showing a drawing of the Leinster House, the Irish Parliament building[citation needed].
In June 2005, Heinz purchased the parent company, HP Foods, from Danone.[2] In October of that year the United Kingdom Office of Fair Trading referred the takeover to the Competition Commission,[3] who gave the go-ahead for the £440 million acquisition in April 2006.[4]

In May 2006, Heinz announced plans to switch production of HP Sauce from Aston to its European sauces facility in Elst, the Netherlands, ironically only weeks after HP launched a campaign to "Save the Proper British Cafe". The announcement prompted a call to boycott Heinz products. The move, resulting in the loss of approximately one hundred and twenty-five jobs at the Aston factory, was criticised by politicians and union officials, especially as the parent company still wanted to use the image of the House of Commons on its bottles. In the same month, Labour MP Khalid Mahmood brandished a bottle of HP Sauce during Prime Minister's Questions in the House of Commons as part of a protest against the Heinz move. He also made reference to the sauce's popularity with the former Labour Prime Minister Harold Wilson. These plans were confirmed on 23rd August 2006[5] and the factory at Aston ceased production on 16 March 2007.[6] A week later a 'wake' was held at the location of the factory.[7]

Demolition of the factory began in July 2007. It is estimated that it will take 16 weeks to completely demolish.[8] The tower of the factory, bearing the HP logo, was previously a famous landmark alongside the Aston Expressway leaving Birmingham City Centre.
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