Horror Westerns...

[The Mothman]

Originally Posted by Dr.Kelvinstein

Django and Django's Great Return are the only official Django movies and the only two to star Nero. For some reason Sergio Corbucci never copyrighted the character so everyone was releasing a Django movie or redubbing an existing Western to seem like a Django movie. Someone even released one of Nero's mob movies as Django in Italy. Gotta lovie exploitaion!!!! Thogh not really sequels, Kill, Django, Kill and The Stranger's Gundown are both great!

how does Django's Great Return compare to the original, is it also directed by Corbucci?

[Festered]

Originally Posted by The Mothman

how does Django's Great Return compare to the original, is it also directed by Corbucci?

You'll be waiting a long time, if you're waiting for him to answer. He hasn't posted in this since 2004.


Enzo Castellari made it.

If you want the most comprehensive reviews of SWs, go to

Shobary's - http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/

One of the best on the net. Or pick up any of Sir Christopher Frayling's books on the subject, like "Something to do with Death", the ultimate Leone book.

[The Mothman]

Originally Posted by Festered

You'll be waiting a long time, if you're waiting for him to answer. He hasn't posted in this since 2004.


Enzo Castellari made it.

If you want the most comprehensive reviews of SWs, go to

Shobary's - http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/

One of the best on the net. Or pick up any of Sir Christopher Frayling's books on the subject, like "Something to do with Death", the ultimate Leone book.

I was just waiting for anyone to answer it, thanks.

wait, are you saying Leone wrote a book?

[Elvis_Christ]

It's a book about Leone

[Festered]

Originally Posted by The Mothman

I was just waiting for anyone to answer it, thanks.

wait, are you saying Leone wrote a book?

No, but he was an actor in his youth. He's here in The Bicycle Thief as the priest with glasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK0WL-ORD6I

[The Mothman]

Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ

It's a book about Leone

nice Im gonna grab that.

@ Festered
nice clip, thanks for showing me that.

[Festered]

Originally Posted by sfear

Leone certainly had some backward habits. This might explain why the Man With No Name Trilogy appears to have been filmed in reverse chronological order. The most obvious clue is Eastwood finding his poncho on a Civil War battlefield at the end of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. The next would be For A Few Dollars More where a now ponchoed "Monk" watches Colonel Mortimer open a safe filled with cash with The Confederate States Of America printed on it. Finally, A Fistful Of Dollars, the first filmed would be the last chronologically as a headstone during the cemetery shootout is clearly marked 1874.

So as not to further turn the Fulcio thread into a Leone thread, I've transferred this convo over here, sfear.

There are other things in the trilogy that disrupt even that timeline. Models of guns, newspapers, etc. There is even good reason to believe that the MWNN isn't even the same person, as he really did have a name in each film- Joe, Manco(Mock) and Blondie.

Even more bizarre was Leone's approach towards the female parts(what few there were) in his films. Usually portrayed as whores, shrews or rape victims- or a combination of all 3 as in Once Upon a Time in America. Claudia Cardinale had the biggest female role of all his films- Jill in OUATITWest, fulfilling the Mother/Whore fantasy(see my Hitch thread) as the unattainable Madonna.

It has even been suggested that Duck, You Sucker(Leone's only foray into Zapata westerns) may be the first western with homosexual undertones. Homo-erotic imagery abounds(most notably, the egg sucking German general Ruiz). The characters of Juan(Rod Steiger) and Sean(James Coburn) gradually merge into a single personality, which then diverges, with each becoming the other. The restored flashback finale reveals a scene which leaves the ambiguity to the viewers discretion.

By all accounts, Leone was a normal, happily married man. Secret fantasies, perhaps?

Originally Posted by The Mothman

nice Im gonna grab that.

@ Festered
nice clip, thanks for showing me that.

Funny story about that scene. Leone had just purchased a yellow sweater(food and warm clothing were luxury items in post-war Europe) and was wearing it under the priest's frock. The water soaked the dye in the costume thru to it, and ruined it. He was, understandably, pissed.

[Devil-Hunter]

House part 2 was good.

[ChronoGrl]

Westerns, Horror Westerns, Italian Westerns, Spaghetti Westerns - I have absolutely NO frame of reference. It's a genre that I need to catch up in, but I'm not really sure exactly where to start.

HOWEVER

The reason why I wanted to post in here is that I thought that Western fans might find this interesting (I'm actually pretty intrigued myself):

One of Takashi Miike's latest film is his take on the Western genre: Sukiyaki Western Django



With the title, it seems as though he is obviously playing off of Django in some way, shape, or form. I'm fascinated at what Miike's take on the Western would be, though since I have no frame of reference with with Western genre, I'm not sure if I'd appreciate it or get it as much as true Western fans would.

At any rate - If you're interested in the genre, this might be worth checking out. From Italian to Japanese, it might be an interesting evolution. And if you DO check it out, let me know what you think because I'm a Miike fan.

[The_Return]

Originally Posted by ChronoGrl

...but I'm not really sure exactly where to start.

One word: Leone.

Start with the Man With No Name trilogy: Fistful of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and - of course - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. Then go for Once Upon a Time in the West.

Not a spaghetti western, but you should realy check out High Plains Drifter, too - I'm sure its been discussed in this thread already (I haven't read the whole thing), but it's basically a western shot with the sensibilities of a horror movie. One of my all-time favourites.

From there...wow, there's so much ground to cover.