will horror movies ever be respected?

[urgeok]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
I absolutely understand, respect, and even agree with your thinking.

I'm just saying, anyone over the age of 13 has seen Halloween, no matter their taste of movies. It's (with the exception of maybe The Exorcist) the most known.


You and I might think of Black Christmas, but the majority of the population thinks of halloween.

i wasnt actually arguing with you .. i just wanted to talk a little bit of why i like 70's films ..

[The STE]

more good 00-era horror (and I even narrowed it down to the American ones for Xenophobic Alky)

One Hour Photo
Insomnia
Wrong Turn
Dawn of the Dead '04
Land of the Dead
Session 9
From Hell
The Ring

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by The STE
more good 00-era horror (and I even narrowed it down to the American ones for Xenophobic Alky)

One Hour Photo
Insomnia
Wrong Turn
Dawn of the Dead '04
Land of the Dead
Session 9
From Hell
The Ring

For the ones i have actually seen, i agree 100%

[urgeok]

pretty loose definition of horror though ...

[The STE]

And as for the "America doesn't take horror seriously anymore" or whatever it was he said that I'm too lazy to go back and look up, every country/region/whatever has had its 'golden era' for horror. The silent era was Germany, the 50's and 60's were kindof a general European era, 70's were America, 80's just kinda sucked in general aside from a few standout exceptions, and now it's Asia. After that, the Middle East era, the Mexican/South America era, and the Eskimo era, it'll all loop back around again to Germany. We'll get another golden era here when we're about 60.

[urgeok]

i dont think horror is condusive to all cultures ..

mexico/south america .. maybe - but spiced with politics (Devils Backbone)


I dont think you'll see very much from the middle east - if anything at all - ever.
When you live with horror day to day - it doesnt make for great escapism ...

[The STE]

I was kidding about the Middle East. But I'd love to see an Arabian horror movie

[urgeok]

Originally posted by The STE
I was kidding about the Middle East. But I'd love to see an Arabian horror movie

i figured you were .. but the point stands ... many countries have no film industry whatsoever and the ones that do - culture dictates what will get made ..


We keep forgetting australia ..
they've made a mittful of decent fright films ..

[joshaube]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
I think if there was any chance of some respect by the masses, it's been ruined by the remakes and shitfilms released in the last 4 years or so. Think about it. All new horror today isn't really released as a "movie", but more a popular pre-teen girls' activity. PG-13 "thriller" horror (I cannot believe they tagged 'Wicker Man' with one) is utter shit: The critics know it, anyone over the age of 16 knows it...the genre is actually losing respect.

The 60s can brag about Psycho.
The 70s can brag about Halloween.
The 80s can brag about Hellraiser.
The 90s can brag about Silence of the Lambs.

Today, we can brag about a fucking remake of The Fog, rated PG-13 for some frightening moments and mild sensuality.


For Chrissake...

We can't brag about...

The Descent?
The Devil's Rejects?
The Blair Witch Project? (99, I know.)

Tagging The Fog is over-exaggerating things a LOT, buddy. It was pretty much one of the worst movies I have ever seen, and everyone agreed. Even those of age 13 who it was targetted at.

One could pick out the worst movie of any decade, and label it "Look at this shit. This decade was good for NOTHING."

It's not true. You may feel that our decade is a sad time in horror, and compared to the films of the past, it is. But it's not completely wasted.

You lean toward the older classics, the black & white. This is YOUR taste. Who are you to say that movies we enjoy today are "bad films"? For you, they might be. But others enjoy them. How is it right to tell someone that a movie THEY enjoy is a failure. Is that not what movies were first created to do? Entertain? If it does that, to one - it's not a failure to them.

This whole bussiness of some people around here complaining about films other people like is really starting to anger me. At first I was like this, I admit. But I realized... how stupid I sound. It's fine to give YOUR opinion of something, but when you tell someone as a whole that the film THEY like is bad, and they have BAD taste for liking it. That's pushing it.

Just because someone has a different taste then you... does not mean their taste is 'bad'. Who's to say that yours isn't worse?

Taste is per person. I remember a quote from Miss Olivia, comparing our opinions to assholes. It was probably the most truthful thing I have ever heard.

[The STE]

Originally posted by urgeok
i figured you were .. but the point stands ... many countries have no film industry whatsoever and the ones that do - culture dictates what will get made ..


We keep forgetting australia ..
they've made a mittful of decent fright films ..

I don't know what a mittful is, but I guess they could replace the Middle East. I still say the Eskimos could make a good horror film if they put their cold little minds to it. Hell, The Thing may as well have been an Eskimo horror movie.