"Save" Us All....

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by monalisa
I consider myself a Christian because of my beliefs. I don't go to church. I was turned off by that a long time ago.

Oh Yeah...You just reminded me of another point...

I've been to churches, and it seems to me that people are WAY too interested in what you're wearing and how you look...Those people seem very stuck up to me...And there is SOOO much gossip...Aren't those things considered 'non-Christian'?...I thought the purpose of going to church (at least, the only purpose I could come up with), was so that people could worship, and share a belief...You know, come together because of something they have in common, not separate themselves into categories of who's better than whom, and point out their differences...

They seem extremely judgemental to me, even though the message of Christ is supposed to be that we are all 'brothers' and we are supposed to accept each other, and be forgiving of everything...."Love the sinner, hate the sin"...Also, the word 'Christian' means 'Christ-like', the bible says that God looks at a person's heart (what's on the inside) and man is concerned with appearances (what's on the outside)...So, if a Christian is supposed to 'be like Christ' why do they care so much about how you look and how you dress?...Isn't that contradictory to their own beliefs, and what they call themselves?....And, isn't that the definition of hypocrisy?

.....I just don't get it....

[VampiricClown]

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[wu ghung]

fair enough. I gave up belief because a stary cat got into my rubbish bin and spilled some rubbish. i mean if there was a god. he wouldn't let such a bad thing happen. My life sucks too. I might go kill myself. Where's my gun? O here it is my, my shotgun was in my pants. O no that's my dick .

[monalisa]

Originally posted by VampiricClown
And that's the way you should be. Be able to listen, and converse back without overdoing it.

Atheists are the way we are because when you don't really believe in anything, there is less conflict with other people. You don't really have to force something on someone else, you have yourself to believe in, and you can live without having to worry every second that if you do something minor wrong that you're going to hell. Just explaining my view of things.

To me it sounds like you may be giving other people a lot more power over your life than they should have. You don't believe in anything, partly because you don't want to get into a conflict with others? Fuck other people and believe in whatever you want.

I understand about the hell thing though. But my personal belief is that God knows me better than I do, he made me, so he knows why I do the things I do and I think he understands me and loves me anyway. That's another reason why I don't go to church, I think my beliefs are more open minded than most in the Christian churches, but that's none of their business and I don't want to hear them try to 'advise' me on things I've already thought about and come to terms with. I guess you could call me an off-beat Christian. My beliefs are based in Christianity, but I'm open to other things too. I'm too curious and fascinated by the universe to not be interested in what it has to offer.

Agnostics, I do understand. They tend to believe there is something out there greater than ourselves, but don't know exactly what it is. The dictionary defines it like this:
An agnostic does not deny the existence of God and heaven but holds that one cannot know for certain whether or not they exist.

OK, I guess that's now my 4 cents worth. :)

[monalisa]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
...I thought the purpose of going to church (at least, the only purpose I could come up with), was so that people could worship, and share a belief...You know, come together because of something they have in common, not separate themselves into categories of who's better than whom, and point out their differences...

You kinda just described HDC (he-he) :) The church of HDC! j/k :p

And I totally agree with you on the judgemental stuff. :rolleyes:

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by wu ghung
fair enough. I gave up belief because a stary cat got into my rubbish bin and spilled some rubbish. i mean if there was a god. he wouldn't let such a bad thing happen. My life sucks too. I might go kill myself. Where's my gun? O here it is my, my shotgun was in my pants. O no that's my dick .

lol...Wu's back

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by monalisa
To me it sounds like you may be giving other people a lot more power over your life than they should have. You don't believe in anything, partly because you don't want to get into a conflict with others? Fuck other people and believe in whatever you want.

And I second, third, fourth, fifth, and exponential-eth that...:D

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
And I second, third, fourth, fifth, and exponential-eth that...:D

To infinity :p

[kpropain]

Religion is the cyanide of the masses!!!!

[monalisa]

Originally posted by kpropain
Religion is the cyanide of the masses!!!!

I personally don't like religion. There have been soooo many wars fought over the disaggreeement of one religion vs. another. And even different interpretataions of the same religion. I do believe in spirituality, which again, is an internal personal thing that you may or may not share beliefs with other people. I just wish that people (not all do this but enough of 'em do) would just respect other peoeple's beliefs and opinions and stop being so nasty about it. A good rousing conversation can be interesting and sometimes enlightening, but there's no reason to be so fucking evil about it. (The World according to Kathy) :)