Is the genre dying?

[PR3SSUR3]

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The absolute dearth of new and novel ideas have also hit the genre hard. Thats one of the main reasons we have game-to-movie adaptations and remakes galore.

Almost all the topics under horror have been made into a movie or the other. We have had countless vampire, innumerable werewolf and plenty of zombie movies. The slashers have been saturated to such a point that no new plot is redeeming the slasher genre (cept maybe Saw and Saw II).

Japanese horror has found acceptance here because there are plenty of original ideas emanating in that part of the world. Now we have run into franchises getting together. Freddy vs Jason was the first successful one, close on its heels came Alien vs Predator. Both enjoyed tremendous commercial success so now rumors of more "vs" movies are doing the rounds.

There is no novel idea which hasnt been turned into a movie plot before. If remakes are the criteria and the horror genre jumps into other genres to stay alive, then it would be dreadful. For example, it would suck to see a remake of "the Good, the Bad and the Ugly" as a horror movie. (bad idea, scratched instantly)

I just hope this is a circle we are going through, like the evolutionary chain. And the genre moves into a new direction, enjoying both commercial and critical success.

[urgeok]

like i said before - horror has suffered because of the fans who actually pay to get into the theatres en mass. - kids..

so the majority of horror movies are for kids, starring kids.

99% of these films end up being limp dick safe toothless little films.

I think there has been some hope though..
as mentioned the asian wave has given the genre a much needed kick in the ass, as well as our boy tarantino and his friends, rob zombie, who are definately trying to kick it 'old school' when it comes to gore for the sake of gore,etc ..

even if you dont like the particular films (hostel, cabin fever, 1000 corpses, haute tension, etc, you have to acknowledge their efforts to jump-start horror.

Putting out an R rated horror is a brave bold move these days. It almost guarantees failure at the box office.

iunfortunately my personal feeling is - that they are just small blips on the radar and unless they somehow take hold and encourage big name respectable actors and directors to make class horror films like they did in the 70's ... then things will continue to go downhill despite their efforts.

[PR3SSUR3]

even if you dont like the particular films (hostel, cabin fever, 1000 corpses, haute tension, etc, you have to acknowledge their efforts to jump-start horror.

Putting out an R rated horror is a brave bold move these days. It almost guarantees failure at the box office.

iunfortunately my personal feeling is - that they are just small blips on the radar and unless they somehow take hold and encourage big name respectable actors and directors to make class horror films like they did in the 70's ... then things will continue to go downhill despite their efforts.

Yes, add Saw and Wolf Creek to that list too.

Box office suicide used to be the case with 'NC-17' movies, is that now the case with 'R'? How young are these kids watching horror movies in America these days, 13?

[urgeok]

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Box office suicide used to be the case with 'NC-17' movies, is that now the case with 'R'?

it practically is with R .. most of those are straight to video.

I know people will be able to come up with a few examples to the contrary - but if you make a comparrison the large majority of films in the theatres - they are pretty safe.PG -13 at worst.... nudity has almost completely dissapeared from the big screen in north america.
Swearing makes it into PG-13 films as well as action violence, but thats about it.

How young are these kids watching horror movies in America these days, 13?

if you go to the theatre ... most of the audience is 12 - 18

you rarely see adults at anything other than something like 'the notebook' or 'the da vinci code'

most people after 25 - especially when they have kids - will say they maybe see 2 movies a year - saving the occasion for something like da vinci code or maybe even x-men 3 (if they can beg their wives to go).

you ask a kid and they go every weekend ..

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by urgeok

most people after 25 - especially when they have kids - will say they maybe see 2 movies a year - saving the occasion for something like da vinci code or maybe even x-men 3

After I see the midnight show of X3 tonight (tomorrow morning....semantics), it will be 3 movies I've seen at the theatre this year. The other ones were The Da Vinci Code and M:I:3. So I basically go for the Blockbusters, or something that really deserves my hard-earned dollar.

[Dante'sInferno]

Every remake or seqeul will be as good as this!!!!!!!!!!




































































































SHIT

[Dante'sInferno]

Sorry,Yeah i too think the genre is dieing...




EDIT:Fucking typo's....holy fuck i can't spell today.>.<

[urgeok]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
After I see the midnight show of X3 tonight (tomorrow morning....semantics), it will be 3 movies I've seen at the theatre this year. The other ones were The Da Vinci Code and M:I:3. So I basically go for the Blockbusters, or something that really deserves my hard-earned dollar.

i'll be seeing x3 for sure ... but it does mean a 100$ night (including babysitter)

cant do that every weekend

[Yellow Jacket]

I too will probably be seeing X3 this weekend! Here are the other movies I've seen in theaters this year (sorry, ItsAlive gave me the inspiration):

Mission: Impossible 3
The Hills Have Eyes (remake)
Scary Movie 4
The Benchwarmers
Silent Hill

There are probably a few more, but I can't think of them right now. I was trying to make it a weekly thing, but not everything deserves my dolalr (and people don't need their kids babysat as much and nobody is offering for people to get their grass cut, so I'm basically waiting until I turn 15 this August to get a job).