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Old 09-22-2006, 03:25 AM
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The movie isn't about changing his mind, or making him realize what he's done wrong. She even says it's not. Her only job here to to punish him. Not help him.
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Old 09-22-2006, 03:30 AM
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The movie isn't about changing his mind, or making him realize what he's done wrong. She even says it's not. Her only job here to to punish him. Not help him.
..it doesnt help to understand your a pedophile...to change someones mind isnt necessary about helping...that can be a punishment
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Old 09-22-2006, 05:34 AM
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you know - you can draw comparrisons and find links between any 2 films no matter how unseemingly related they are.


personally - given the mood and direction of either film .. i cant see it even if i try.

they seem the same to you - then i guess thats the way it is for you.




i'm conceding on this one as i always draw comparrisons between donnie darko and napoleon dynamite (as one being the dark side of the other)
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Old 09-22-2006, 01:20 PM
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they seem the same to you - then i guess thats the way it is for you.




not the same ....only some alikeness ( is that a word ? )
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:47 PM
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...have you seen "Hard Candy" ? ....the whole movie is about changing the victims mind....and make him understand what he have done is wrong....
No its not about making him change his mind. She never tried to do that. She just made him realize what he did was terrible and that he deserved to be punished.
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Old 09-26-2006, 01:50 AM
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Loved this movie.
One of the better movies I've seen this year.
This one is certainly gone be in my DVD collection when it's released.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:14 AM
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No its not about making him change his mind. She never tried to do that. She just made him realize what he did was terrible and that he deserved to be punished.
...its a mind change
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:32 AM
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I took it more as...

SPOILERS GALORE IN THIS THREAD SO I'LL ALERT YOU NOW IF YOU HAVEN'T YET REALIZED.

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"I don't want your sorries, your pleas for forgiveness, or your sayings that you'll change. I don't fucking care about that. You did what you did, and there's nothing you can do to change it."

I felt that sort of mentality. I can't argue whether it's like Misery because I haven't seen Misery. But I didn't get the sense she was trying to persuade him that it was wrong. She was simply punishing him; her goal wasn't to get him to say he was sorry, or to realize it was wrong. She just wanted to, well, make him pay.
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:50 AM
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I took it more as...

SPOILERS GALORE IN THIS THREAD SO I'LL ALERT YOU NOW IF YOU HAVEN'T YET REALIZED.

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I felt that sort of mentality. I can't argue whether it's like Misery because I haven't seen Misery. But I didn't get the sense she was trying to persuade him that it was wrong. She was simply punishing him; her goal wasn't to get him to say he was sorry, or to realize it was wrong. She just wanted to, well, make him pay.


which was kind of obvious. so what's the whole point of this discussion. the mind fuck is not in getting to see what we think is the bad guy, change his mind and become repentant, but to see this little girl basically take an evil turn. his previous actions are only questioned by her, the audience in turn is questioning this girl's actions.
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Old 09-28-2006, 02:08 PM
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really want to see it

I can't wait to see this movie! I've heard some pretty good shit about it, and now this thread has me wanting to see it ASAP
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