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Old 01-30-2006, 06:40 AM
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I see how you could think my post contradictory however my position remains that I am not going out of my way to denigrate Deity Believers it's just impossible for me not to believe they are in some way deranged. I just mean belief in God is deranged, the other multitude of wicked acts committed by Christians, Muslims, Jews and Scientologists are just plain oppressive. I think Science and Rationality have destroyed God and it is my honest belief that believers should be ashamed of their childish gullibility rather than have their right to faith defended. I can't stop anyone believing in God but I do have the right to point at their nonsensical belief system, challenge them on it and dismiss it as un-scientific nonsense. Wiccans and other spiritual types who wish to expand their understanding of the world and its mysteries etc are no problem to me but the organised zealots who demand respect for their fiction are repugnant. In my humble athiest opinion.
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:00 AM
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:01 AM
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this is HDC remember ?

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Old 01-30-2006, 07:07 AM
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I don't think it's contradicting, I know it is. You're saying you don't mean to offend someone who.."should be ashamed of their childish gullibility",''deranged'',''unintelligent'' and ''wrong-thinking''.

How can you not see how that offends?

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Wiccans and other spiritual types who wish to expand their understanding of the world and its mysteries etc are no problem to me

Wiccans have Gods too so why aren't they deranged? There are screwed up people who refer to themselves as wiccans just like any other religion. You can't look at the fucked up people who label themselves as a member of a religion and molest kids and fly planes into buildings and put it on everybody. Those pieces of trash are the ones that are deranged not the people who actually follow their particular beliefs and truely feel that they are living their life in a good way.

And going back to my other point, I just don't understand how some people think it's ok to blatantly disrespect someone for thier beliefs. It's completely unneccesary and part of the reason why the world is so fucked up, it's just completely un fucking neccesary. Believe what you want to believe and have the desency to let others do the same. There's just no acceptable reason for outright disrespect towards someone who's doing what they feel is good and not hurting anyone in the process.
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:24 AM
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Again, as you may imagine, I disagree. I continue to think belief in God is a ridiculous fantasy, like Santa Claus for adults, obey the moralistic code on earth and you'll get lots of lovely presents in Heaven. As I said I really don't think I could convert any poor mental incompetents to atheism so I'm happy to point out my opinions and allow anyone else to do the same. I must say I think the tone of some of the replies is getting a little bad-tempered (if the profanity is anything to go by), it surprises me that faith in the Supreme Being who shall judge all humanity at the end of days can be shaken and insulted by internet posts.

However we can all post what we want within reason so let me just state the intention of my original post on this subject was to ask other non-believers if they found religious horror films as scary as non-horror films. If people are offended by my labelling religious types as crazy, live-chicken eating, hallucinating, crucifix obsessed then please get your Gods to forgive me.
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:30 AM
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Ah yes, I forgot. I guess God is just filling up my head and I don't have room for anything else in my crazy head.
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:55 AM
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Ah yes, I forgot. I guess God is just filling up my head and I don't have room for anything else in my crazy head.
mind you . i wasnt thinking about this guy in particular when i made that comment ...
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:59 AM
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mind you . i wasnt thinking about this guy in particular when i made that comment ...
I know - but I was! :D
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Old 01-30-2006, 08:03 AM
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here's how i see it ..

i dont believe in anything ..

but other people do - for various reasons.
I dont figure it's my call to persuade these folks to be like me any more than i believe they should try to make me like them.

its called respect for the individual.

I know good christians and bad christians
I know good non-believers and bad non-believers ..

all i care about is if people are decent or not.

kindness is the most undervalued trait in our society.
more the pity.
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Old 01-30-2006, 08:08 AM
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obey the moralistic code on earth and you'll get lots of lovely presents in Heaven.
You're right, we shouldn't have a moralistic code, just run around like crazy assholes killing,stealing,raping ect. Because that's a much more rational thought right?:rolleyes:


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As I said I really don't think I could convert any poor mental incompetents to atheism
That's funny because Einstein believed in God, here we are thinking he's a ridiculously brilliant person and all the while he was just a poor mental incompetent.
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