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Old 07-14-2005, 05:38 PM
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To me...this movie reminded me of another movie, then I started to think...aw, yes....
This movie reminded me of almost horror movie I've ever seen. It had a little of most of 'em rolled into one....

I mean thats great if you can make a buck off of remaking most of the classics in one movie...

How many people remember the old Batman t.v. show¿
Everytime he put one of those lame music clips in there.....thats all That would pop in my head.......

Sorry ...I thought this movie was terrible...
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Old 07-16-2005, 02:43 AM
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Most people complain about this film just being like another film (TCM), well wait a moment most films immitate others now anyway

You could kiss goodbye to vampire movies, werewolves, slasher movies, psychocological thrillers, the list is endless

Then we could start on the sequels
Immitation is the best form of flattery, this film does pay homage to the TCM and is violent just as in TCM

The next thing you know we all have around 50 horror movies (i'm being generous)

Nothing now is original, the last time it was was during the 70's and early 80's (there still was a lot of it going on though back then)

As I have said before, you hate this film for the reason it was made, it was made in humour so people could hate it

Look at the original TCM, poorly acted, poorly scripted, casted with the wrong people and yet now people love it, the point of the film was violence
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Old 07-16-2005, 02:56 AM
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Look at the original TCM, poorly acted, poorly scripted, casted with the wrong people
Well I was agreeing with you until this part!!! Wrong man...so, so wrong.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:47 PM
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Well I was agreeing with you until this part!!! Wrong man...so, so wrong.
Before everyone jumps at me for this, at the time this originally came out an all "teenage" cast was unheard of, most films relied upon older actors with teenagers taking the smaller roles
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:12 PM
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Well I was agreeing with you until this part!!! Wrong man...so, so wrong.

same here


If nobody could act or fit into their roles and the script sucked I have a hard time believing it would be as liked as it is.
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Old 07-21-2005, 09:35 AM
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The casting of the Family is spot on perfect in "TCM". Wonderfully acted, wonderfully crafted characters.
The 'teens' are no better or worse than most, but Marilyn Burns ripped the screen up during the finale to give what is still THE definative woman in peril performance.
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Old 07-21-2005, 06:13 PM
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My point was the teens...

Just because a movie is well acted & well scripted doesn't make it a success and it works the same in reverse

I liked TCM, but just like Clockwork Orange I could not see what all the fuss was about

I was a young child when they was released, after seeing the adverts I wanted to see them both

In britain they was both band (eventually released with cuts until recently)

I watched them as a teenager and finally uncut as an adult and whilst they was violent, i did not see what all the fuss was about

The media made those films calling for them to be band (please note as i have said before i like the films), but I do beleave without the media attention and people telling their children not to watch these "Video Nasties" they might not hold the status they do today
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Old 07-21-2005, 07:06 PM
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"TCM" was certainly a sort of let down to me the first time I saw it as it was not the gore drenched item I assumed it to be...But once I knew that, a second viewing was adored and it's been that way ever since.
And I still think the 'dinner scene' is hands down one of the most unrelenting and utterly brutal sequwnces in any horror film full stop.

Never liked "Clockwork" and could not see what the fuss was...but it's place in censorship history is very important as is it's opening of the studio/mainstream door (along with "Straw Dogs") to the ultra violent 70's.

I agree that it was 'hype' that meant the first viewing of "TCM" was under false assumptions...but it's a hype trap that is still there today because:

"TCM" has always been fully uncut in the UK and it's banning is not a simple case.
It was given an uncut 'X' for showing in London cinemas, it was withdrawn from VHS when the Video Recordings Act came into being (as were ALL films) and no one submitted it for certification after, and companies were advised not to bother later on.
And then it was released uncut again more recently. But whenever it has ben avaialable it's always been uncut and no 'in circulation' print was ever banned. It was also never on the 'Video Nasties' list, but is perhaps the one title that people always assume was! :)

"Clockwork" was never initially banned in the UK. It went out uncut and was only later withdrawn and refused permission to be screened again in the UK by Kubrik HIMSELF. No censor banned it.
This self-imposed ban was ended years later when Kubril took the stupid thing to the grave with him. The video was then passed uncut.

Zombie did overhype the content of "Corpses" and led many to think it was going to be some kind of gore bonanza, but even then i thought it was one of THE most full-on horror films to get a mainstream release for many years.
I had already read the (totally unjustified) hate campaign against the film on The Net before i saw it and so, unlike "TCM", i was not under a false assumption content wise.
But as it turned out it was a real surprise anyway.

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Old 07-22-2005, 03:51 AM
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As far as i was aware in 1984 after someone claimed to have watched "video nasties" he killed some of his family blaiming the movies for his actions.

In amoungst the ones he blaimed was TCM. Led by Mary Whitehouse (I hate the woman) she had it passed that any movie released before 1985 and onwards would have to be put in for censorship.

As far as I knew 1min 45seconds was removed until 1996 when it was given a certificate and a warning was put on the front (rental).

It did eventually come out on sell through with 45seconds of cuts

Last year finally on DVD was released in its original format.
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:16 AM
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Nah, it wasn't available until 1999 when Blue Dolphin released it on sell-through video - fully uncut.
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