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11-02-2003, 01:43 PM
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its not kindness...honesty
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11-02-2003, 06:28 PM
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My biggest thing about children and censorship....Parents need to take the time and explain things...Movies,music and video games are just excuses for isolated,however, tragic events...But it all comes down to where were the parents.. Most children dont go on mad rages because of what they've veiwed or heard .. But when a child is unstable..parents need to take the "proverbial" front seat and guide them.
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11-03-2003, 04:22 PM
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I have been watching horror for many years... ever since I was 2 or 3 .. My parents didnt care what I watched and my mother always said "well it doesnt scare her, and it occupys her mind" so therefore I was grown up on this stuff. But what did affect me was the way my parents were.... alcoholics/abusive, et cerera... so it was not the horror... and the research maybe right but a movie does not make someone do something... :) i have many friends claiming that music/movies affect them and I tell them they are idiots cause they use it as an exscuse..
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11-03-2003, 04:30 PM
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You guys remember that movie The Program? It was a football movie. Anyway, a bunch of kids lie out on the highway while traffic goes by in the movie. Some kids tried this in real life and died. I don't blame the movie for that whatsoever, I blame those dumbass kids. Sure, the movie may have caused one of those kids to suggest doing it, but what normal person would lay down in the middle of the road surrounded by oncoming traffic? So maybe movies and tv suggest things, but only retarded, unstable, or insane people take those suggestions.
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I agree. Doing something stupid because you saw it in a movie is no excuse and you shouldn't blame the movie.
The research I was talking about didn't say that horror or violent movies turn kids into psycho killers, but that they can introduce basic insecurities that can screw with normal psychological development. At least Jackass took the heat off of horror films. Didn't some kid get on a lit propane grill wrapped up in tinfoil because he saw it in Jackass?
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11-03-2003, 11:51 PM
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http://www.digitalpimp.org/~john/pics/4Runner the one on the right
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11-04-2003, 12:11 AM
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Re: Horror movies made me do it
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Fuck that. Every one wants to point fingers and blame everyone else for thier own stupid actions. People suing McDonalds for making them fat is a great example. These are people that understand perfectly well what they are doing. Quite frankly with the columbine shootings it was bound to happen to white middle class america eventualy. And for the love of GOD they made such a big deal out of it, the same shit happens every day in large cities, the only difference was that these kids diddn't know how to react to it, the city didn't know how to react to it. The church blames marlyn manson because they want to put the blame on someone else other then the children they raised to throw up thier noses to those that didn't "fit in". On that subject i may as well add that when people treat you like shit to the extent that you no longer see yourself as human you no longer see others as human. You no longer care, the only thing you feel is hatred and rage. I've been there, anyone can be pushed to that brink, and those that choose not to follow the flock seem to be pushed aside. (Gee, isn't that what happened to jesus, but they slaughtered him rather then have the hatred thrown back, this is no reason for those to say that is how one should react to bad treatment, I'm saying this has been going on in history for thousands of years). These kids didn't do if because of video games, or Maryln Manson. No one kills because they want to be cool and distroy people matrix style, they kill because they want to and point fingers later. Video games aren't capable of brain washing someone, even if they have a "weak mind". Charles Manson didn't pull it out of his ass, he used logic (if you can call it that, i guess things make more sense in code if your on acid) that those who spoke with him already related to, things they already wanted. If those that decide to go out and kill after video game session or watching a horror movie, it's because they already had the plan to do so. You don't see it and say gee there's a good idea, i think i'll go out and snuff someone. suing McDonalds for making them fat
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*gives immortaldead a standing obation* good speach, i think thats the smartest thing anyones said in this forum in a long time, and now were back on people killing people, the ones with no friends who got theyr asses kicked after school by a scociety that doesnt accept you if your diffrent.
either your a cheer leader, captain of the football team or your nothing...
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I won't go as far as to say horror movies make kids wanna put on hockey masks or razor-bladed fingernails and slash the innocent when they least expect it (sleeping, having sex, etc.) I will say that there does appear to be some form of "bah, whatever" to movies as you get older. People watching moves (myself included) are not only use to the idea of death, but are easily use to the idea of murder. It just isn't shocking anymore.
On another level to this, have you ever noticed that many horror flicks will throw in a person that the audience agrees deserves to be slaughtered. A high school bully, an abusive husband, the doctor/scientist that just wouldn't listen to reason. When the quote/unquote "bad guy" appears and dismembers these people, it is put in the movie to not scare the audience, but to appeal to their ever-growing side of "kill,kill,kill". So no, I don't believe that any one person could blame any one movie for a series of murder. Those people are called crazy. But I do believe there is some truth in movies with any sort of violence making the general public more leniant towards the idea of experiencing bad things, either while happening to them, or enacting on to others. Pardon me, I must go hack away at these two kids I spotted having sex in the woods. You know, no biggie.
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