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Old 07-02-2004, 02:47 PM
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Hey ya!

Tell them about us here!

Vamp: Imagine if it was about Ca., Man...........we'd be pissed!

I think it's an inside battle......at least that is how I would feel!
Tell them about Canadians? Well ... first, I have to say that the United States, with all of its "freedoms", is a hell of a lot more conservative than Canada is. People are so passionate about the issues in the States, that the government almost feels responsible for dictating a national morality, which really sucks. Morality is not the government's job! As far as gun control goes: well .... I know I am about to get shit all over by the gun fans here ... but .... I just don't see the pleasure people get out of stockpiling guns. I mean ... I can understand owning a handgun for protection (you almost need one, nowadays), but the folks who have entire arsenals are the ones I don't understand. It seems to me (and this is just my opinion) that guns were made for one thing -- to hurt people. And I have to question people who think these things are fantastic. But then, I can understand the intricacies involved in gun collecting. The machinations of the pieces, the beauty (yes, beauty) of the make. I can see that. I don't share it, but I can appreciate it. However, I don't see the pleasure in running off and shooting guns for fun. That seems a little odd to me. "Hell ya! I feel powerful with this bitch!!" I dunno. I could never get that.

But, Moore's argument isn't really about gun control. At the basis of the "Bowling for Columbine" film is the idea that American's live in fear, and this fear is the result of many things. Our history, our media, our entertainment, etc. I don't know if I entirely agree, but he makes interesting points. Americans DO seem to have a fear of their homes being invaded, or being assaulted on the street, etc. And whether or not that fear is valid, I do not know. I work in a school in a low-income area, and there have been stabbings in my district. But, even so, I do not go to work fearing what will happen to me during the day. I don't know why.
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Old 07-02-2004, 03:04 PM
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Old 07-02-2004, 03:21 PM
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Guess that pretains to me Stingy I own 37 guns and enough ammo to take out a platoon of people...LOL

I guess the whole issue with me and guns is for one thing I'm a survivalist and just want to be prpared if something crazy ever did happen. That doesn't mean I'm a psycho and just want them for the sole purpose of going out and killing people.... but like I said i'm a survivalist and in my eyes better safe than sorry....

Also I just love the aspect of collecting them..

And for the sake of just going out and shooting guns for the fun of it, you gotta learn how to shoot a gun to be accurate, and practice makes perfect;)

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE - PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE
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Old 07-02-2004, 03:24 PM
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You are absolutely right about Ca. Stingy! We are way more liberal, more like Europe! We love dising our politicians too...if they are stupid....no loyalty there!

I am being tactful about this subject though because a lot of my best friends are American, and I don't want to lump them into a stereotype! Canadians should know all about that too well!

If MM had done a similar movie about something in Canada, I don't think we would have been as sensitive, because we can get into criticizing ourselves bigtime....we enjoy it actually! LOL!

But.......it would piss us off if it gave a negative impression to people from other countries........don't shit in your own nest kinda thing!

Love my American buds!
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Old 07-02-2004, 03:28 PM
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Nine, I think you need to visit my "Canada" thread....I need help badly...
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Six bottles went down the drain
One hour's a waste of time
I'd ask if you feel the same
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Your breath in this cool room chill
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Guess that pretains to me Stingy I own 37 guns and enough ammo to take out a platoon of people...LOL

I guess the whole issue with me and guns is for one thing I'm a survivalist and just want to be prpared if something crazy ever did happen. That doesn't mean I'm a psycho and just want them for the sole purpose of going out and killing people.... but like I said i'm a survivalist and in my eyes better safe than sorry....

Also I just love the aspect of collecting them..

And for the sake of just going out and shooting guns for the fun of it, you gotta learn how to shoot a gun to be accurate, and practice makes perfect;)

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE - PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE
Yes, I realize there are some really great people that enjoy collecting and shooting their guns. It's very interesting how people's interests differ so much. I just was never the type to get into things like guns. Or football. And that makes me gay in the eyes of a lot of dudes. :)
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Old 07-02-2004, 03:33 PM
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Nine, I think you need to visit my "Canada" thread....I need help badly...
I'll check it out!
I love my country, but respect my friend's countries as well........to get respect you have to GIVE IT!


I'll go there later, Stingy can too.....he lived right by me!
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Old 07-02-2004, 07:31 PM
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michael moore is a true piece of shit.





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Old 07-02-2004, 11:38 PM
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Guess that pretains to me Stingy I own 37 guns and enough ammo to take out a platoon of people...LOL

I guess the whole issue with me and guns is for one thing I'm a survivalist and just want to be prpared if something crazy ever did happen. That doesn't mean I'm a psycho and just want them for the sole purpose of going out and killing people.... but like I said i'm a survivalist and in my eyes better safe than sorry....

Also I just love the aspect of collecting them..

And for the sake of just going out and shooting guns for the fun of it, you gotta learn how to shoot a gun to be accurate, and practice makes perfect;)

GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE - PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE
omg i agree with him. 100% when people take up the sport of shooting wether its hunting or target shooting it is nothing to do with the power it makes them feel. saying that is just arogant sure a minority do but most don't . most people do it becasue they see being a good shot as a skill or even a way of spending time with friends in a enviroment which they have a lot of things in common. anyone involved in the sport will tell you, there's a lot more involved than just going out shooting things up and getting some sort of cheap buzz.
btw i think that duco moore made was excellent. but i wouldn't confuse him for making the film for any thing else but money
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Old 07-03-2004, 07:53 AM
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Yes, I realize there are some really great people that enjoy collecting and shooting their guns. It's very interesting how people's interests differ so much. I just was never the type to get into things like guns. Or football. And that makes me gay in the eyes of a lot of dudes. :)
I know the feeling. I'm not into fast cars or guns or sports, etc.
I'm into computers, scifi, horror, books, creating music and philosophy. That would make me a flaming homo by a lot of peoples standards.
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