Most Pretentious Directors

[ChronoGrl]

Originally Posted by Roderick Usher

It is precisely this kind of negativity coming from "fans" that I despise and keeps me away from this site.

Making a film is hard work. Even a bad film requires a ton of hard work. I should know, I've made several very bad films. Making a good film is extraordinarily difficult and crafting a film that stands the test of time is close to a miraculous event.

Before you call these master crafstmen pretentious, try making a feature film.

What's that? You can't? You don't have the skill or talent or perseverance?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

The saying used to be "those who cannot, teach" but it seems far more appropriate to say "those who cannot, criticize." Becasue a critic is someone too lazy or too untalented or simply too fearful to actually create that which they take such delight in destroying.

I come here to share my love for films. I think it's time to leave for good.

Geez, Rod! No need to take it personally! So just because making a movie is difficult means that people don't have the right to criticize it? Criticism AND reverence are the cornerstones of discussion (ok, that was a bit of an overstatement, but you know what I mean)... If everyone just sat back and applauded every movie that was churned out just because it was weely weely haad too maik, well, that's sort of like giving out "constellation" awards to kids who can't handle not winning.

People who produce movies should expect criticism, whether it be constructive or not. When you put yourself in the limelight, that's what happens. Besides, didn't you WANT people to see it? Plus, arguably it's criticism that people use to build future products on.

Not to mention, this is just OPINION. And everyone has a right to their opinion. There's no way that everyone is going to LOVE every movie that comes out, and that's OK. It's disputing opinions that make up a discussion and make up a forum.

Originally Posted by fiend_skull

I feel that a title such as "pretentious" especially with film making isn't really something that can be handed out unless you pay close attention to the person. Just because someone made an artistic movie, or something along those lines doesn't make them pretentious, or at least that is how I feel about it. I have always felt someone like Stanley Kubrick was pretentious for how he treated everyone else and how he acted on set. I've never heard of so many incidents from one director, but I guess to each his own, in whatever way that might form in this thread.

See, I dig that. "Pretentious" is more of a dig at the director (as a person, vs their work) and can be taken as offensive (which is I assume why Rod responded the way he did). Argue with the use of "pretentious," but let us criticize. And let directors grow a pair.

[neverending]

You mean consolation, not constellation. :D

[ChronoGrl]

Originally Posted by neverending

You mean consolation, not constellation. :D

LMAO!!

No - Constellations! Star-shaped trophies! ;)

[fuglystick]

I'm sensing a theme in a couple of threads today, and that theme is "Let me educate you Neanderthals."

[neverending]

Well, I'll give one thing to Wicker- he's sparked some discussion in a forum besides the General forum.

That's a good thing.

[TheWickerFan]

Originally Posted by ChronoGrl

Geez, Rod! No need to take it personally! So just because making a movie is difficult means that people don't have the right to criticize it? Criticism AND reverence are the cornerstones of discussion (ok, that was a bit of an overstatement, but you know what I mean)... If everyone just sat back and applauded every movie that was churned out just because it was weely weely haad too maik, well, that's sort of like giving out "constellation" awards to kids who can't handle not winning.

People who produce movies should expect criticism, whether it be constructive or not. When you put yourself in the limelight, that's what happens. Besides, didn't you WANT people to see it? Plus, arguably it's criticism that people use to build future products on.

Not to mention, this is just OPINION. And everyone has a right to their opinion. There's no way that everyone is going to LOVE every movie that comes out, and that's OK. It's disputing opinions that make up a discussion and make up a forum.



See, I dig that. "Pretentious" is more of a dig at the director (as a person, vs their work) and can be taken as offensive (which is I assume why Rod responded the way he did). Argue with the use of "pretentious," but let us criticize. And let directors grow a pair.

I think you're my new best friend. You really nailed what I was trying to say, but phrased it more eloquently than I did.

And by the way neverending, I'm a woman.

[Straker]

I wouldn't really want to single out any specific directors, but I'd say there's a certain degree of pretentiousness (is that a word?) to the whole process. You're making something that you believe deserves to find an audiance and that has the power to evoke emotional responses. The fact that a director might say "We're just trying to make a cool movie that people will enjoy" instead of "This movie has the power to change the world" doesn't really make all that much difference. Some directors are incredibly pretentious, some a little less so. I don't think its just a case of being 'arty' that defines a pretentious film or director. Usually though, if a director deviates to far from the norm s/he's going to be called pretentious, self indulgent and arrogant when probably the reality is most directors have a little of that in them.

[AMICUS HORROR]

Now things have cooled down:rolleyes: here is my list of pretentious directors

John Landis.
Joe Dante.
I just hate these Spielberg wanabees.:)

[_____V_____]

Well duh, pretentious films attract us because we are, by nature, very pretentious? Aren't we all?

At least I admit I am.

Originally Posted by Caenxavier

I nominate you!
:p kidding, kidding.

The trophy in that category goes to me.

[psycho d]

Originally Posted by The_Return

As for your list...no. Just no.

The perfect response that obviates the others.
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