Obama's "major milestone" for US economy

[milktoaste]

Originally Posted by Zero

you should at least glance at the real history before making bold statements.

Ok, I suppose since Wisconsin isn't in America, I must not of got the full story. And sure Dibble blamed not fixing a bridge with multiple reports of failing braces on Bush. That's what politians do, redirect blame. But then it doesn't matter when any other President denies highway funding. Here in my beautiful country, we get denied highway funding every year. None of our bridges fell down though, in fact, we still manage to build some new ones now and then.

[milktoaste]

For the record, I hated Bush just as much as the next guy. I just don't think as many things that are blamed on him were his fault. The guy was a jerkoff, and I trully hope things improve with Token-I mean Obama.

[Zero]

Originally Posted by milktoaste

I trully hope things improve with Token-I mean Obama.

wow - what brilliant argumentation - you are a total douche.

please go away

[milktoaste]

From Wikipedia:
Argumentation theory, or argumentation, embraces the arts and sciences of civil debate, dialogue, conversation, and persuasion; studying rules of inference, logic, and procedural rules in both artificial and real world settings.

Excuse me for the low blow on Obama. I wasn't kidding that I hope he can fix things for America. But for argumentation sake, he totally fits the bill. I had never heard of this man untill he ran against Hillary for the Democratic Nomination, and neither had most of us. In my own personal opinion, he won because he was the most attractive option in the election. Democrats had an easy job defeating the GOP after Bush screwed everything up. We didn't need to know anything about Obama, we didn't care that he went to a rascist, seperatist church, or that he had gone largely ignored by the Democratic party up untill that point. I think we were all excited for a change, and we were just as excited to see a black man do it. I know of entire churches from innercities from Arizona to Virginia who went by the bus load to vote him in. Not because he was black, but because he wasn't a old white man. If that doesn't make him the Token Black Guy, then I guess I'm just a douche bag.

Look up Chicago’s Trinity United Church Of Christ and replace all the words 'black' with 'white'. Just fro argumentation of course.

[Leprucky Cougar]

Originally Posted by milktoaste

That's what politians do, redirect blame. .

That's something that people do who argue....they reverse blame. For those that debate---even upon disagreements still come up with logical counterpoints not fallacies or assertions. And with your context, that's something everyone not just politicans do.

[Leprucky Cougar]

Originally Posted by milktoaste

From Wikipedia:
I had never heard of this man untill he ran against Hillary for the Democratic Nomination, and neither had most of us. In my own personal opinion, he won because he was the most attractive option in the election. Democrats had an easy job defeating the GOP after Bush screwed everything up. We didn't need to know anything about Obama, we didn't care that he went to a rascist, seperatist church, or that he had gone largely ignored by the Democratic party up untill that point. .

In some Clintons supporters' mind, it was Hillary not Obama that was the most attractive option in the lesson---remember how nasty the primaries were in the spring, when she was hammering the Obama campaign with the experience and credibility debate.

And not everyone knew much of nothing about Obama. Perhaps those that have a disinterest in politics--but I along with several other friends of mind, predicted Obama would be president 5 years ago when he made the keynote speech and the 2004 Democratic National Convention. This was the beginning of his rise--from there on it wasn't so much he was ignored by the party--just needing to raise and establish himself and credibility as some members of congress already had. He served on the Foreign Relations Committee while in Senate, and practiced as a civil rights attorney--so he made a mark early on to some, maybe not a universal one--because it was yet to come.

[milktoaste]

Originally Posted by Leprucky Cougar

In some Clintons supporters' mind, it was Hillary not Obama that was the most attractive option in the lesson---remember how nasty the primaries were in the spring, when she was hammering the Obama campaign with the experience and credibility debate.

--so he made a mark early on to some, maybe not a universal one--because it was yet to come.

That's true, I knew it would've been either Democrat, I'm glad it was Obama. Though Obamas' background as a politician was very limited in comparison to past presidents, and I can see that being a hinderance to him during the great scheme of things. I hope his 'universal mark' is everything it's hyped up to be.

Yes, not all politicians redirect blame, I just meant to say that particular one did. The 10 ave bridge was open and near by, the i 35 bridge should have been shut down mnths earlier when cracked brackets were found on it.

[Posher778]

Where's Rayne when you need her. She has enough arguments against Obama to make supporters cry.

[Elvis_Christ]

Obama's not going to change shit. The entire system of government/power needs to be changed to see the results most people think Obama will bring. Different face, same story.

[Leprucky Cougar]

Originally Posted by Posher778

Where's Rayne when you need her. She has enough arguments against Obama to make supporters cry.

Well, despite that assumption, he's every American's president--not just his party's. And he deserves a fair and legitimate outlook for his plans and agenda--in respect to the degree of problems he was essentially given after the past several years.