ET phone .....Vatican..lol

[Vodstok]

I remember my aunt and uncle being relieved when the last pope said it was okay to love your kids even if they are gay. There is nothing inherently wrong with catholicism, but the idiots in charge get my blood boiling.

[Ferox13]

There is nothing inherently wrong with catholicism, but the idiots in charge get my blood boiling.

Insert Christianity for catholicism then you are right..

I feel sorry for all those people in hell for eating Meat on Fridays before they revoked that one...What about Limbo where are all those dead babies* now ?

[Rayne]

I just think it's odd for anyone to tell someone else what they can and cannot believe...And I find it even more odd that some people accept that they can only believe what someone else tells them to believe...

[Psycom5k]

Originally Posted by Ferox13

Unfortunally its not really as big as we all wanted :-( - I still hope.




Well the thing is that we have no proof either way.. To definally believe there is or isn't life out there is just native. Of course there is a possibilty and there seems to be a lot of rocks out there too.

Well...

We have so far discovered 9 in our solar system, and 185 orbiting other stars (as of April. 2006).

But the real number is astronomically huge. There are about 400 billion stars in our galaxy alone. If each of them have the same number of planets (on average) as our own sun, then that's about 4 trillion planets in our own galaxy alone. Multiply that by an estimated 125 billion galaxies in the universe ... thats alot of planets.

Ok, 500 trillion planets, allbeit thats just a guesstimate, but do you know the chances of there not being any other life forms of any kind, that are alive on another planet at this moment? I don't, since i don't know how to calculate something like that, but I bet its close to 500 trillion to 1. I mean cmon, aside from the whole religion thing, the earth was created the same way as every other planet out there. How could there not be one single life form on any one of those planets?

Edit: Ok my math was wrong, the number is much much huger.... but you get what I mean

[Ferox13]

I just think it's odd for anyone to tell someone else what they can and cannot believe...

Unfortunally it goes much further than that...I live in Ireland - which south of the border is pretty much completely Catholic. Now the churches influence has completely extented to the ballot box too with thier influence on referendums with regard to abortion and divorce....So not only are they telling people what they can or cannot believe but are directly influencing major aspects of peoples lives.

I'l tell u another funny thing - in the 30's here the church preached openly from the pulpit to encourage Irish men to sign up and fight for freedon in the Spanish civil war...True story..and who did they want em to fight with - yes the Fascists. So they wanted irih men to fight and die to help Franco..

[neverending]

Originally Posted by Ferox13

Unfortunally its not really as big as we all wanted :-( - I still hope.




Well the thing is that we have no proof either way.. To definally believe there is or isn't life out there is just native. Of course there is a possibilty and there seems to be a lot of rocks out there too.

I'm going to assume you mean naive, not native. But here's my problem with your post, and why I reacted the way I did. Here was the original quote from your first post:

[Writing in the Vatican newspaper, the astronomer, Father Gabriel Funes, said intelligent beings created by God could exist in outer space.

COULD. He's admitting there's a POSSIBILITY. He's not passing down an edict that there is definitely (or definally, if we use your spelling) alien life. Yet you want to overstate his case and ridicule him for something he didn't say. Trying to stir up a controversy where there really isn't any. Again- why'?

[neverending]

Okay- never mind- I see where you want to go with all this. Why not just start out there instead of pretending you wanted to talk about this recent announcement.

[Vodstok]

Religion has no place in government.l End of story. Morality does not require religion.

to my knowledge, the catholic church is the only leg of christianity that has a ruling counsel that tells people how to think and live.not to piss on your beliefs, but i have a problem with the people directing it.

Dont think i am picking on just catholicism, though. i have a problem with anyone or group that tells people how to think.

[Ferox13]

I'm going to assume you mean naive, not native.

Yup typo..

He's admitting there's a POSSIBILITY. He's not passing down an edict that there is definitely

My point as a representative of the church is where is he getting this from. So the Catholic church now thinks there MIGHT be Aliens. Is this way of thinking because of science or some thing that has been passed from God to the Holy Father. Has there been any further break throughs on prove there is intelligent life out there..

Trying to stir up a controversy where there really isn't any. Again- why'?

Not controversy but i'm wondering what the motivation behind something like this is...

[neverending]

Slow day at the Vatican?