Be Honest....

[Burning in Hell]

Originally Posted by LadyFrost

and what might that be? It does sound interesting and id love to find out what it is so that i dont miss it next time it comes round.

xXLadyFrostXx

Already told you about it in private, but for the benefit of others :

www.fantasiafest.com

One of the largest Horror/Sci-Fi/Asian Movies festival in North America, Goes on for three-four weeks each summer and usually has lots of premieres.

[stubbornforgey]

Originally Posted by knife_fight

I can't help but think that the repies to this thread would be different if the original poster wasn't obviously female.

that said, I can't honestly say that I hate any horror movie. the Scream and IKWYDLS movies don't really do it for me. they seem a bit too polished and overproduced.

you mentioned that you didn't like the rape scene in THHE remake and that it wasn't necessary. I didn't enjoy the scene, but I hafta say that the whole movie made me happy to see such extremity being shown in a major Hollywood release.

to me, intense scenes are great. I like seeing exactly how far directors will push the limit.

my favorite episode in the Masters of Horror series is Cigarette Burns, just for that reason... because I could identify with two of the characters. one of them says that he "only wants the most extreme images" (paraphrasing) and the other, the director of a notorious film, made movies because he "wanted to utterly destroy the audience."

now that's some shit I can respect. but once again, that sort of thing isn't for everybody. and whether or not it's some "macho" thing or even if it's a "sick" thing (my wife thinks the former), it all comes down to what is pleasing to you aesthetically and if the Scream (or any teeny-bopper horror, for that matter) is what you like I, personally, have no problem with that.

erm...em a female so does my reply count??

I found no offense to the rape scene..why?
cos it was only a movie and its reality ..whether we wish to admit and visualise it or not...it happens.
Its actually good for ppl out there to see how much pain and suffering a rape victim goes through.
How many objections were made to the scene in the green mile when the 2 girls bodies were shown.?
The most taboo thing to me ..is a child murder/rapist/etc and these are being shown on televison via prgrammes like law and order .S.V.U etc.
You can't have a storyline without a story.
I think its hypocritical for a horror fan especially ..to sit there and cheer for some scenes in some movies and on the same token ..criticiise a scene in another.

[knife_fight]

Originally Posted by LadyFrost

it just gave me the willies and i couldnt stomach it...i physically felt ill after it

that is awesome.

Originally Posted by LadyFrost

breaking them is when i have a problem.

that's when it starts to get interesting, to me.

[LadyFrost]

I found no offense to the rape scene..why?
cos it was only a movie and its reality ..whether we wish to admit and visualise it or not...it happens.
Its actually good for ppl out there to see how much pain and suffering a rape victim goes through.
How many objections were made to the scene in the green mile when the 2 girls bodies were shown.?
The most taboo thing to me ..is a child murder/rapist/etc and these are being shown on televison via prgrammes like law and order .S.V.U etc.
You can't have a storyline without a story.
I think its hypocritical for a horror fan especially ..to sit there and cheer for some scenes in some movies and on the same token ..criticiise a scene in another.

thats your opinion and i appriciate you voicing it...but as ive said before i dont agree...but thats just me...i dont know whether its because of the way ive been brough up...my psychological programming or the media...maybe its a mix of both....like ive said...i normally dont mind rape scenes...but for some reason that one just really got to me

xXLadyFrostXx

[PR3SSUR3]

What Scream spawned was a new generation of self-aware, knowing 'party' horror movies - specifically aimed at excitable teenyboppers and self-aware, knowing twentysomethings.

This safely in place, Kevin Williamson then went on to further irony in his I Know What You Did Last Summer, then thankfully fell pretty much flat on his face with Teaching Mrs Tingle and Cursed (another collaboration with sellout hack Wes Craven) after the irritating teen-angst drama series Dawson's Creek.

Things are kind of steadying themselves now with the arrival of nasty, torture mainstream horror (Hostel, Saw et al) that doesn't need to seep itself in clever references, so it will be interesting to see where the mainstream genre goes from here.

Perhaps the likes of Williamson can adapt his style, or maybe he will just fade away like Craven should have done years ago when he stopped making decent films.

[urgeok]

Originally Posted by PR3SSUR3

What Scream spawned was a new generation of self-aware, knowing 'party' horror movies - specifically aimed at excitable teenyboppers and self-aware, knowing twentysomethings.

This safely in place, Kevin Williamson then went on to further irony in his I Know What You Did Last Summer, then thankfully fell pretty much flat on his face with Teaching Mrs Tingle and Cursed (another collaboration with sellout hack Wes Craven) after the irritating teen-angst drama series Dawson's Creek.

Things are kind of steadying themselves now with the arrival of nasty, torture mainstream horror (Hostel, Saw et al) that doesn't need to seep itself in clever references, so it will be interesting to see where the mainstream genre goes from here.

Perhaps the likes of Williamson can adapt his style, or maybe he will just fade away like Craven should have done years ago when he stopped making good films.

do you think the current nod to the old grindhouse flicks will continue and influence the immediate future of horror films, or do you think it will be a blip on the radar ?

i'm not sure if it will become the new level of acceptance or if it will spur on some kind of morality force backlash.

usually this kind of thing will exist for a while before the powers that be get wind of it (being the least plugged in part of the populace) They'll hear something from a senator who's wife caught their kid watching hostel.

[LadyFrost]

This safely in place, Kevin Williamson then went on to further irony in his I Know What You Did Last Summer, then thankfully fell pretty much flat on his face with Teaching Mrs Tingle and Cursed (another collaboration with sellout hack Wes Craven) after the irritating teen-angst drama series Dawson's Creek.

Now "Teaching Mrs Tingle" did kind of bite the big one (but i will admit i own it on DVD...dont throw any rotten vegies or fruit at me please!!) but "Curse" was a pretty good movie...not the best werewolf movie...but it did have a certain aura about it. it could have done better...the storyline needed work...but the consept was good....and i never thought id see the day when Joshua Jackson would actually be a main in a horror movie....but it has happened.

PS i dont like Josh Jackson by the way...he kind of went bla for me when he was in Dawsons Creek.

xXFrostXx

[knife_fight]

Originally Posted by stubbornforgey

erm...em a female so does my reply count??

yes

Originally Posted by stubbornforgey

I think its hypocritical for a horror fan especially ..to sit there and cheer for some scenes in some movies and on the same token ..criticiise a scene in another.

this makes almost no sense. so, if you are a fan of horror, you're just supposed to blindly accept any horror movie, or to narrow it down, any horror scene, without question?

I love the scene in Halloween when MM sticks the guy to the cupboard and then stands there and examines him like a butterfly pinned to a board.

I dislike the scenes in Halloween when Laurie has asides to herself like, "I thought you outgrew superstition." to me, that's kinda cheesy.

but being as I like one scene, and dislike another, does that mean I'm not a true fan of the genre? or to take it a bit further, does this comparison mean I don't like the movie Halloween? as a matter of fact, I consider it to be one of my favorites.

to me, a true fan has cultivated a taste for what is good and what is bad... particularly in their chosen genre.

[LadyFrost]

this makes almost no sense. so, if you are a fan of horror, you're just supposed to blindly accept any horror movie, or to narrow it down, any horror scene, without question?

I love the scene in Halloween when MM sticks the guy to the cupboard and then stands there and examines him like a butterfly pinned to a board.

I dislike the scene in Halloween when Laurie has asides to herself like, "I thought you outgrew superstition." to me, that's kinda cheesy.

but being as I like one scene, and dislike another, does that mean I'm not a true fan of the genre? or to take it a bit further, does this comparison mean I don't like the movie Halloween? as a matter of fact, I consider it to be one of my favorites.

to me, a true fan has cultivated a taste for what is good and what is bad... particularly in their chosen genre of choice.

Bravo!

xXLadyFrostXx

[slayer666]

I thought the Scream series and the Last Summer series were entertaining and worth watching. Even though none of these films were scary, the original Scream was an interesting take on the horror genre. Unfortunately, the cool teen thing got old really quick.