The next US President will be...

[Burning in Hell]

[QUOTE=urgeok;494230] although we did have this other gnarly french canadian guy who ran over a sleeping drunk with his car. [QUOTE]

That would be René-Levesque, prime minister of Québec from 1976 to 1985. He was a very simple man, did not want to waste money on a driver and used to drive his car by himself. But that incident with the drunk sure put an end to that :p

[bwind22]

Nice replies! A few things I want to touch on though...

1- Obama is not black, he's mulatto (Sp?). His dad is from Africa, his mom is from Kansas.

2- It may be too early for him to run. Initially I had been hoping he'd run in 2012, but recent developments within the democratic party are now pointing to the strong possibility of an '08 run. They are looking for a middle-ground democrat to pull in some of the middle-America vote.

3- McCain is a straight shooter. I would agree with that. He's not afraid to stand up to his party and tell them what he thinks. The problem I have with him is that I don't neccesarily agree with what he thinks.

4- Rod mentioned the mounting Clinton/Bush monarchy we could be looking at if Hillary were to win. Let me take that a step further and propse the issue of Jeb Bush running some time in the future too! We could be looking at up to 36 straight years of having a Clinton or Bush in power. FUCK THAT!



In closing, I really DO think Obama will run in '08, but I am not sure if he will be able to win the democratic primary and get himself in to the race. IF he does get in the race, I could see him winning. America is tired of being at war and I have a feeling whichever democrat gets nominated, will end up winning. On top of the core democrat support he would receive, I think he'd also be able to pull in a large portion of the minority votes (Usually Democratic anyways) as well as a very large portion of the under 35 voters. The under 35 voters could be his key to winning this one. Obama believes that the baby boomers have had their chance in power and now it's time for the next generation to take over (and I, like many of my peers in the under 35 age group) feel exactly the same way. They had their chance, they fucked it up. Step aside and let someone else try.

[Haunted]

Originally Posted by Roderick Usher

My problem with Hillary is that if she were elected Pres, we'd have 2 families running the US for 24-28 years.

'89-'93 George Bush
'93-'01 Bill Clinton
'01-'09 Geoerge Bush Jr.
'09-'13 or even '17 Hillary Clinton?

Seems too much like battling royal families to me. The system was set up to eliminate the Aristocracy, but it seems that's what we're stuck with:mad:

That's an excellent point and taken, especially if Chelsea sticks her nose into politics. In twenty years, she'll be running for office, and climbing that ladder too.

[bwind22]

Don't forget about Jeb Bush. He'll get his turn before Chelsi ever does.

[bwind22]

I'm happy to say it is looking more & more like I am gonna be spot on with this prediction of Obama taking the White House. He's garnering a TON of support online from the 18-35 crowd since officially throwing his name into the hat.


Too bad it's looking like Norm Coleman isn't gonna get the Republican support he'd need. I'm guessing it'll be Obama vs. McCain or Giuliani in 08. I gotta say, in general, that'd be a big step in the right direction. Instead of getting stuck choosing between a flag burning doof & a complete fuckin' idiot, we'll get to choose between the hero of 9/11 (Giuliani) or a well-decorated veteran that has no problem at all speaking up against his own party (McCain) and the guy that embodies the change this country is looking for (Obama).

That's a much better choice to be faced with than 04.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally Posted by bwind22

1- Obama is not black, he's mulatto (Sp?). His dad is from Africa, his mom is from Kansas.

Do you honestly think that's what those red states near the bottom of the map are thinking? Not speaking of all of 'em, but sadly, for the most part.

[bwind22]

Obama won't win many states in the south or middle, but I think he can take the north & both coasts.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally Posted by bwind22

Obama won't win many states in the south or middle, but I think he can take the north & both coasts.

Lets hope so, as of now, he's got my vote. Being in Louisiana, I don't know how much it'll help. I'm still baffled over that ridiculous electoral college, the loser can actually have more votes than the winner...as smart as they're supposed to be up there on capital hill you'd think they'd have figured out by now that that's pretty damn stupid.

[knife_fight]

I think part of the reason that Kerry failed was that he counted too much on the "youth vote" (the under 35 age group mentioned previously). I live in the South, and Obama has my vote (an under 35 one at that), but he shouldn't count too heavily on a bunch of slackers getting off the couch and "rocking the vote" (anyone remember that pitiful attempt to get gen-X'ers to vote?).

[The Flayed One]

I was watching the news one morning, (Fort Wayne, IN) and they were asking people what they thought about Obama or Hillary. The amazing thing was, the comments went exactly the opposite that I thought they would. People were loving Obama but hating Clinton. NOT because they were against what Hillary was about, but because she's female. They were seriously writing in with comments, trying to state reasons from the bible why she shouldn't be President. It was amazing.