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Old 10-02-2006, 08:05 AM
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then why the hell is it called SATANism ?


its like christians not believing in christ.
I know...It does cause confusion

But...The 'Satan' in 'Satanism'...Is used as a WORD, not an actual name of any entity/person...
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Remember, satan is a title, not an actual person, which stands for "the adversary."
It pretty much just means that you're against everything else, concerning religion...That the only thing that's REAL or holds any type of power, is yourself.....Which, is perceived as being adverse to God
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:09 AM
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I d summarise Satanism in one sentence...its an easy way for attention seekers to grab the spotlight very conveniently...
Most modern Satanists I know don't go flaunting it about. I only know they're Satanists through nights of long philosophical debate.

As to why it's associated with Satan, I think the post I had on the first page can help sum that up.
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:11 AM
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Most modern Satanists I know don't go flaunting it about. I only know they're Satanists through nights of long philosophical debate.
I have seen many brag bout it and try to influence others into it. Attending a black mass is like some sort of prestige issue for those guys. Also they had some special rites on June 6th this year, of which I m not aware of.
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:12 AM
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Most modern Satanists I know don't go flaunting it about. I only know they're Satanists through nights of long philosophical debate.
That's also a VERY valid point...A REAL Satanist usually doesn't even mention it...It's almost always the ones that say things like "I practise Satanism" without any provocation, that use the term incorrectly, usually hoping for some dramatic response....That was why I added to ___V___'s statement

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As to why it's associated with Satan, I think the post I had on the first page can help sum that up.
I tried :)
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I have seen many brag bout it and try to influence others into it. Attending a black mass is like some sort of prestige issue for those guys. Also they had some special rites on June 6th this year, of which I m not aware of.
Those aren't Satanists. Those are idiots.
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:15 AM
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well then,

i guess i'm a satanist by definition ..

but i prefer humanist.

as soon as you give it some kind of title it becomes something bigger than what it really is. and subject to interpretation.

i wouldnt go around calling myself a satanist because i dont believe in the presence of a higher power and i know i ultimately control my own destiny.

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A TRUE Satanist believes that HE alone has the power to make his life what it is, good or bad...That only HE has the power to cause change in his life by his own actions.............., and takes responsibility for his own actions...A Satanist never says "Please God, help me"...Or..."The devil made me do it"...Get what I'm saying?



that is also what a true christian believes.
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I have seen many brag bout it and try to influence others into it. Attending a black mass is like some sort of prestige issue for those guys. Also they had some special rites on June 6th this year, of which I m not aware of.
Yeah...That sounds like 'Devil Worship' to me...Not Satanism...

Black masses are also included in Paganism/Wiccanism...COMPLETELY different from Satanism...As Pagans and Wiccans definitely believe in external forces...
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Those aren't Satanists. Those are idiots.
haha...hence I said ^^^ above. Trust the guys with plenty of piercings and goth stuff to proclaim "I am a Satanist!" :rolleyes:
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:19 AM
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Yeah...That sounds like 'Devil Worship' to me...Not Satanism...

Black masses are also included in Paganism/Wiccanism...COMPLETELY different from Satanism...As Pagans and Wiccans definitely believe in external forces...
The younger generation hooked on phonics and drugs doesnt know which is which. All they are aware of is that they are following something, and its something which elevates them above the level of us mortals.
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:21 AM
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Those aren't Satanists. Those are idiots.
Ha...You said it better than I did
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well then,

i guess i'm a satanist by definition ..

but i prefer humanist.

as soon as you give it some kind of title it becomes something bigger than what it really is. and subject to interpretation.

i wouldnt go around calling myself a satanist because i dont believe in the presence of a higher power and i know i ultimately control my own destiny.
That's a very astute analysis...And actually true...Atheists do hold the same beliefs as Satanists...But, yeah, who needs the title?


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that is also what a true christian believes.
But...They accept (need) help from God, usually when times get rough...and sometimes BLAME God when things go wrong

A Christian believes "God helps those who help themselves".....But...A Satanist believes "Only I can help myself"
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