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I don't really think they had to do it but it doesn't make me want to speak out against them either. what did they do after they killed the animals? Eat them? Oh well, what's done is done, but think of it this way. It's easy to kill something for real and make it look gory but creativity comes into play when trying to make something look real that isn't and fooling people into believing it just means you're doing an even better job. A few pig intestine here, a little blood there....
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All good points, and I agree about fleas and parasites in general - anything that lives on and feeds directly from a host must run the risk of death if it is discovered, either by the creature itself or someone else who cares for it.
In fact, just look at monkeys grooming each other and munching on the parasites they find in their fur.
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I regret that my favorite film has a rabbit being killed. It's the one thing on film I can't keep my eyes open during. I used to take in stray rabbits and it makes me feel positively sick to see that scene. Sadly, it is however a somewhat important motif. The rest of the film is great, except for that one moment. I think it's a self-absorbed and overzealous thing to believe that your artistic vision is important enough to kill an animal solely to enhance it. I also don't think it makes a person a hypocrite to eat meat and condemn hunting or the killing of animals for artistic purposes. There's a difference between killing to physically nourish people and killing to entertain yourself or others. Real killing is too frequent and too close to home to be entertaining.
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It\'s footage from a rabbit farm. It happens everyday there. It was not killed for the film.
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11-21-2005, 06:00 AM
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If it is Nekromantik, perhaps Faustus is unaware of the reasoning behind this footage - but the killing of the rabbit is exploited in the film nontheless.
Not to mention filmed by Buttgereit, so while not quite so reprehensible as the tactics of Italian cannibal exploitation... still rather dubious considering the actual death footage was premeditated. BTW InYourFace: promise you'll stop sending me strange sexually-worded PMs? Cheers, big guy! ;)
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Well...
I'll be the Devil's Advocate and say... I don't care. Let the animals die. There, it's been said.
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The scene where they kill the turtle in CH, Its done for shock value but they reported that it was eaten afterwards & it was killed humanely, For me the scene with the musk rat was far more disturbing the actor is sawing at it & takes 3-4 stabs at it before it dies its squealing the whole time. Umberto Lenzi once said when Francis ford Coppola kills that cow in the climax of Apocalypse now its art, When he kills an animal its animal cruelty........ Thing is i don't remember FFC tying a monkey to a stake & practically force feeding it to a python like he did in FEROX.
One thing i had to laugh at while watching the extras on CH, the actors & the camera man said they did 'nt realise what was going on until it was too late & if they had they would have stopped it.
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