Abortion - actual thread

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by Nate
I dont think u should call vamprocker an asshole u have to realize this is a touchy subject and some people get pissed off by the thought of abortion.Me im against it ya but the law is the law and im not some radical that will tryen change it.Although i respect the opinions of everyone i dont wanna hear about 1st trimester second trimester crap.Fact of the matter is it is a fetus growing everyday and to me thats where life starts thats life in progress from the very beggining.So your going to use that it doesnt have a brain as an excuse??You need to come up with something better then that.I mean u act like since its inside the mother its like a damn catfish or something.it is a human life form however miniscule it is at the time thats what its destined to become so therefore to me abortion is wrong and thats all ill post on the subject.

Im not being like a dick or anything just trying to point my side out alittle clearer

Yes, it is a touchy subject, and many of us have been able to stay civil. Vamp hasn't.

So your going to use that it doesnt have a brain as an excuse??You need to come up with something better then that.

How about YOU come up with something? Don't bring any religion into it, don't say it has a soul, just fact. As I've said, it's not even a mammal until it has the backbone and lungs at least, and it doesn't have those for 8 weeks.

Nobody who is against abortion has come up with ONE solid reason as to why it should be illegal. Not one.

[Rotting Eye]

Tiny- haha, that actually made me laugh.

Originally posted by Nate
I dont think u should call vamprocker an asshole u have to realize this is a touchy subject and some people get pissed off by the thought of abortion.Me im against it ya but the law is the law and im not some radical that will tryen change it.Although i respect the opinions of everyone i dont wanna hear about 1st trimester second trimester crap.Fact of the matter is it is a fetus growing everyday and to me thats where life starts thats life in progress from the very beggining.So your going to use that it doesnt have a brain as an excuse??You need to come up with something better then that.I mean u act like since its inside the mother its like a damn catfish or something.it is a human life form however miniscule it is at the time thats what its destined to become so therefore to me abortion is wrong and thats all ill post on the subject.

Im not being like a dick or anything just trying to point my side out alittle clearer

And the problem with Vamp is that he was not being civil in his arguements. Civility does not include calling names, and telling other people to kill themselves. Yes, people get heated in arguments. People also need to show self-control, otherwise they look ignorant.

The trimester stuff is all fact, so deal with it.

And no, it's not a catfish. It's a parasite. I thought we had already established that.

[Nate]

[i]Originally posted by Sam The Egg [/i
How about YOU come up with something? Don't bring any religion into it, don't say it has a soul, just fact. As I've said, it's not even a mammal until it has the backbone and lungs at least, and it doesn't have those for 8 weeks.

Nobody who is against abortion has come up with ONE solid reason as to why it should be illegal. Not one. [/B]

I dont use religion to state my opinions im not even a religious person.Where in any of my posts did i bring up religion??You want to use science to back up your statements.but the fact is science is rewritten all the time so you cant base shit on that either.And rotting eye a parasite?? lmao thats the best one ive heard yet.I think alot of people would change there mind if they ever seen an abortion first hand like i have.maybe some have but i am pretty sure most havent.

I dont know a single person thats ever witnessed one then come out saying there for it so i think its something u have to experience.

[VampRocker]

Originally posted by Rotting Eye
I second that thing about Vamp.

I was reading his most recent post, and I thought when he previously apologized he really meant it. Until I got to the end and read that Hitler crap. Geez... What an idiot. Do you know how stupid that made you look? The little redemption you earned just went back to nil.

I was considering listening to you again, but fuck that. You're a complete asshole. And I'm not alone when I say that.

And for anyone to say science is bullshit.. OMGWTF BAN PLZ!

Perfect. I think you're an asshole, too.

And what's wrong with calling people who have abortions "Hitler?" Please, for my own sanity, how the fuck is that more "stupid" than posting pictures of 9/11 and other fucking insensitive things?

And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Hitler want to create his own "super race?" Through killing ones who weren't adequate, the ones who weren't up to standard and the ones he just didn't want to think about and be a part of his world?

Wow, that sounds like abortion, doesn't it? Awesome, d00d.

Way to take offense, Adolf. Do you need a tissue?

[VampRocker]

As for calling a child in it's mother womb a parasite...

Why don't we call parasites babies, instead? It's just a word, isn't it? Or do you actually consider a human child nothing more than a parisitic blob of flesh?

[Angelakillsluts]

Nate said he isn't religious and he thinks science is bullshit. I find that even funnier. I can't believe some people...

It's true that people get heated. I'm keeping out of it because if I got in to it you'd all think I was SFF. :p

[Arioch]

This threads degrading pretty fast, as we all knew it would, but if you guys wanna discuss it rationally ill pop back in.

[Sam The Egg]

I'm still waiting for them to use fact. Yes, science is re-written, and the second they come up with facts that say they're humans the whole time, or that they have souls, fine. But as of right now, the things that classify something as a mammal include both lungs and a spinal chord. They don't have those until 8 weeks in. That is fact. You don't have facts. None of you. You whine about them being living humans, when they aren't human the whole time. Then you say "How do you know" to everything, when you know less because you're so quick to disregard scientific evidence even though it's based in fact. I'm not saying you shouldn't have your own beliefs, but to make laws based on that is wrong, and it's pushing your beliefs on everybody else. You're just as bad as the people who started the "Jesus Died For You" thread. Probably worse, because they never called anybody murderers, they never compared anybody to mass murdering dictators, and they never wished death on people.

You all still have nothing. You haven't brought up one single fact to support anything you've said. And when someone brings in factual evidence to support the opposite side, you're quick to dismiss it and say "Come on, bring something better than THAT". How about you come up with something better than NOTHING. You can't, and that's why you've been so quick to resort to petty insults. You have no proof, no evidence. Just some pseudo-religious bullshit.

[Arioch]

for the first time i stand 100% behind EVERY WORD of what sam just posted.

Beatifully crafted sam, good form.What people dont seem to get is that they ARE pushing their beliefs on others, and not only that, on everyone essentially since they want to make it LAW. I mean come on, if its evil and we're all going to hell then let us, there is no wrong and right if your denied the ablity to make your choice.

[Sam The Egg]

hey, cool, that's twice now you've given me props for something I said.