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Old 05-16-2008, 07:22 AM
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they'd look at a film like that and figure it wasnt bad-ass enough - not hard core enough for them and they'd dismiss it.

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you really see the difference when a director has a lot of love for the genre. even if they dont have the big budget - the love and entheusiasm shines through

I was kinda put off by the horror/comedy thing because it's been overdone and its tired to me and a lot of those flicks become overplayed (Army Of Darkness/Braindead/Shaun of the Dead. But it blew away all my apprehensions by being a innovative film of the subgenre and the best of its type since Evil Dead 2. I dig the lighthearted films especially I get burnt out by the extreme stuff... its good to chill out to something like Strange Invaders.

I dig the Toetag Pictures stuff for passion and love of the genre. They get dismissed as lowbrow/controversial/artless but their shit reminds me of the heyday of the Savini collaborations with William Lustig/Joesph Zito. The Redsin Tower was a better throwback to the 80s than Hatchet and their special effects are amazing. Hated by 90% of people but whatever I'd pick up something with their name attached to it than a lot of the indie dire indie shit out there.
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:31 AM
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i'm open to almost anything .. i'm just getting really sick of incompetance.

shit acting, shit lighting, shit editing.

i've just seen so many of these i cant find anything to enjoy.

once in a blue moon you see some promise peeking through though.

(My Dead Girlfriend, The Stink of Flesh ... where they might not have the budget - but the writing is good and the acting is getting there)
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:00 AM
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I know a lot of you wont admit this...

Rob Zombie has been a very strong influential force in post-2K horror.

Just look at his resume - 3 movies and 1 fake trailer. Each of them has scored with the audiences, and the critics.

Love him or hate him, you cant help but agree.
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:06 AM
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I know a lot of you wont admit this...

Rob Zombie has been a very strong influential force in post-2K horror.

Just look at his resume - 3 movies and 1 fake trailer. Each of them has scored with the audiences, and the critics.

Love him or hate him, you cant help but agree.
i'm not one of the haters - but i'd say QT broke the ground he's treading first (homages to genre films of the 70's)

but i'd definately say he's made a contribution to regenerating interest in hard horror.
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The article is about how horror has changed since it begun and what films have made it change.
I meant what are you writng the article for ? College? Magazine etc?

Elvis C- Do you think AU/Mordum etc have been seen by enough people to have an influence on the genre. I really don't think Cloverfield/Diary of the dead were influenced by them and Blair Witch was made before the first AU film.

As Directors Nakata, Miike and Park were very influencial for the acceptance of the new wave of Asian films in the west.
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Big fan of Rob Zombie and agree that the QT broke the ground first. His flicks have definatley regenerated an interest in the genre just like QT's flicks did for the crime genre. I'd love to see QT do a horror film

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Elvis C- Do you think AU/Mordum etc have been seen by enough people to have an influence on the genre. I really don't think Cloverfield/Diary of the dead were influenced by them and Blair Witch was made before the first AU film.
Yes, and it showed the 1st person camera films can make an effective film on a limited budget... its success was a big part in how Diary Of The Dead was filmed.
I was meaning Mordum revived the genre after Blair Witch for the 2000's.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:36 AM
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i'm not one of the haters - but i'd say QT broke the ground he's treading first (homages to genre films of the 70's)

but i'd definately say he's made a contribution to regenerating interest in hard horror.
Yep thats true.

But for a maker who is only 3 movies old, I d say thats a heck of a contribution.

I can imagine how his influence on today's horror will be like once he's done about 20-25 movies. As long as he doesnt get pulled into studios' concoctions about raking in the money, and compromise decent quality and own ability.
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Hi everyone. I'm working on a horror movie article and am doing a poll on the most influential horror films of the 2000's. I'd be grateful if anybody could given me ideas as what they think are landmarks of horror from the last 8 years and why. Thanks in advance:)
Yeah, first of all, will I be quoted in the article or will you just steal my opinion?
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:03 AM
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the influence i hope it waould have is : if you're going to do something - do it right - give attention to detail .. if you're going for a retro look .. don't do a half assed job.

Fido did everything right... most horror movies arent given that much care and love.
Fido was a very well made movie, but it wasn't very entertaining, maybe if I was ten years old, but I'm not.

Even Toy story was more entertaining to me and it isn't horror, I was very dissapointed in Fido, it could have been great.
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But for a maker who is only 3 movies old, I d say thats a heck of a contribution.
Gotta agree with you.

You look at the horroe boards are people talking about Bava/Argento/Tourneur..nope

They're talking about Zombie/Aja/Eli Roth - they are defianlly influencial...
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