Lemmings

[Haunted]

The closest point I could make would be The De Vinci Code, as lame as it is. In that film destroying the foundries of the Church is the theme.... SPOILER

However, chica opts not to in the end.

You're all thinking for me, and I appreciate it, but you're thinking how I thought you might. Yes, the issue is addressed in film. They've dealt with the darker themes of the mythos, i.e. demons and the apocalypse. Never is it attack or questioned, in the face like. Ya know? Islam, Judaism, once again Hinduism, Buddhism have all been trashed by filmmalkers, and really great filmmakers at that. Why not share the love?

@Despare- I realize that there is no point is singling one group out... in the ultimate sense of things- unless the story falls that way. Unfortunately a huge part of horror is dealing with the despicable and blasphemous... the unclean so, it is essential to play with this subject a little bit.

What's really nice about this crew is that we can have casual conversations about religion and no one cops an attitude.

[Phalanx]

I'm curious as to why no one attacks Christianity via film

I think Christianity is the one religion that attacks itself enough already...but yeah, there's been movies that've portrayed them as the "bad guy" or the party in the wrong, for sure.

[Zero]

box office - anti-christian films don't work; anti-semitic is ok but in terms of dollars you can't piss of mainstream christians and make a buck. look at last temptation of christ versus passion of the christ.

at least its better than the old days when the Legion of Decency could force a film to be totally re-edited or rewritten at the threat of a 'condemned rating.'

[Doc Faustus]

I think the Wicker Man got in some good jabs.

[Haunted]

You're right in that they are the majority religion, however given the number of people who "are not" and the number of people who aren't over ridden with guilt or just uptight, you'd think it would be all clear. Now is the best time during this high hoped world of Rationalism or rather the attempt at being hopefully rational.



Doc, you know I haven't seen that. Can't really decide if I want to. The original one was pants. I saw that years ago, while I was in high school. Ths film was just despicable in it's portrayal of a modern day ancient society (hah!), ridiculous! Even archeolgists in the 1960's knew somethings about the lives of those folk. It's just that we aren't always thought of when their affairs are researched. No one comes to the present day followers of those paths and says, "Great news, peeps."

[Doc Faustus]

The new one is dreadful. I think you should give the original another chance, though. Yes, in some ways it is backward in how it regards paganism, but it succeeds in mature discourse in lieu of Marilyn Manson style topdog bashing. Mature discourse is what's necessary. I would like to see more films about how divinity and the church are wholly different animals. Maybe something about the misbehavior of a priest and god developing a malthusian towards him. I do agree that a more enlightened view toward paganism is necessary and the church has done its share of crap to people, but I think more needs to be done to remind people that faith is in their hearts and minds, not their wallets and not in any building built in the last two or three hundred years. Happy Spring, blessed be.

[Despare]

Originally Posted by Disease

Well, what my point is we are not extreame religous freaks as to ban a movie about the church in Australia... But working conditions in the UJ.K ar absolute shit and they don't even get good friday of, it's just called a bank holiday and every one works, but they don't get penalty rates they just get an extra days holiday.

Penalty rates in Australia are time and a half or double time and a hal i'm staring to forget for a public holiday.. then if you don't have to work on the public holiday you recieve full pay...

So this system is screwed.

But back to the point. What I was Origanally getting at is that they seem to be useing easter as a bigger marketing/shopping campaighn here in the U.K,.
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Which once against makes no sense to me in a town like Glasgow with one football club catholic and the other Prodistant... fucked if I know how they justify themselfs at church.

I mean if they are so ritcheous about there religons that they fight in the streets about it why don't they care at easter?

Anything people can commercialize they will. Personally I don't think any religious holiday should be paid vacation unless the people celebrating use a vacation day or personal day but that's just my opinion. As far as the banning, well, everybody wants to ban things they find offensive and nobody wants to take credit for it. Hell, the republicans get shit for wanting to censor and ban music all the time when Tipper Gore was the one who started that shit. Ah well, I'm glad I got off track here, I wasn't sure where I was going anyway. Like I said, no government in the world should stop working on a religious holiday, and I'm not even one of those people who are super crazy about separating everything religious from state (nativity scenes, menorahs, etc...).

[Phalanx]

I thought about a tattoo, not for me or anything just thought it'd be funny to get one of Jesus all smiling n' shit, looking down shooting someone through the face, and a slogan above "who needs fiction?", yknow...then hit up a local church or somethin'

[Despare]

Originally Posted by Phalanx

I thought about a tattoo, not for me or anything just thought it'd be funny to get one of Jesus all smiling n' shit, looking down shooting someone through the face, and a slogan above "who needs fiction?", yknow...then hit up a local church or somethin'

So like a troll but in real life instead of on an internet forum.

[Roderick Usher]

Kevin Smith's Dogma does a good job of evicerating Catholicism and all dogmatic faith in general, but is inherently Christian at its core and even serves as a reafirmation of faith for some.

Have you seen the documetary series on PBS called A Brief History of Disbelief? It is actually the FIRST EVER television program dedicated to telling the history of Atheism. It is fascinating.

and my screenplay DAMNED will certainly give the zealots something to bitch about:D