What are your views on God?

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by Posher778

I don't think you can honestly prove that there is no God.

I agree with you. There is no "evidence" to support anything either. Still don't know who "they" are... haha

[Posher778]

Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X

I agree with you. There is no "evidence" to support anything either. Still don't know who "they" are... haha

That's good to know. But what is your viewpoint exactly?

[Master]

Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X

Go... flip those burgers like they've never been flipped before.

also don't ever try to be condescending after saying something like this... like I'm not smart enough to know what an illiterate mongo like you is talking about.



OMCDave: im not sure of all that yet but they prove more and more each day that there is no one god ...

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[Despare]

I believe in God.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally Posted by Posher778

That's good to know. But what is your viewpoint exactly?

I don't have a viewpoint on religious deities is that a lot of people find comfort in believing that they aren't to blame for the possible good and bad in their lives. They find comfort in believing that there is some sort ultimate justice for everything that they've done and for everything others have done to them. I think religion is as good as it is bad... I think we'd find something else to fight over without religion. I think people who think that without religion or guns there would be no fighting or war are pretty uneducated. I'm not saying that people who think religion is the bane of society are stupid, there are plenty of other things that count against religion... now a debate on how bad religion really is would be interesting.

I live my life as if there were no god. I have my own set of morals, I believe in heaven and hell as states of mind. I try to treat people the way I would expect to be treated, solely because I feel bad when I don't. I am responsible for my life.

It's impossible to know what happens when you die until it happens. Just as it's impossible to know whether or not God exists. Every argument that can be made against the existence of god can also be made to support the existence of god. Every idea is just as plausible as the next in my opinion, so it seems pretty pointless to waste thought into wondering what happens when I die while I'm still alive.

[pinkerton]

I've come to believe it is human nature to create and worship a higher power.It seems to me that almost all religions resemble eachother in some way.From different mythologies to christianity many times there is a god and a son(Thor, Christ, Hercules).I don't know what religion or god is the right one so I just kinda keep my options open.Who's to say Krishnas or Christians are correct.Hell, maybe nobodys gotten it right yet.

[Master]

The last few replies were all very impressive, reflecting some of my own beliefs but from a different viewpoint. Obviously, every belief system is shaped by personal experience, which is why I respect everyones ideas on matters such as these. Speaking of the God/Son analogy.... There are records that indicate that the "Jesus" story had been told in many ancient religions in exactly the same manner thousands of years before the birth of Christ...different names of course, but something to think about.

Anyway, I can go on and on and on and...you get the point about this topic, but I don't feel the need to.

Anyway, has anyone read "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle or "The 13th Planet"by Zechariah Sitchin? Is anyone familiar?

They are two vastly different books as far as content goes, but they are very valuable in helping you figure some things out.

To each his own.

[Haunted]

Henotheism! (Polytheism with a supreme Godesshead (or Godhead, but not).

I didn't create anything except the patterns of my life.

When shit goes wrong in my life, it's probably my fault.

When shit goes wrong in the world, it's probably humans.

I don't feel compelled to be spiritual. I bloody well enjoy it.

I don't think the Powers that Be compel a person to be spiritual, just so long as the person doesn't going around mucking up the planet or other people.

Essentially, I go with something Plato said, "If you think it. It exists." Now, maybe that's taken out of context, but even having been said...

None of this mandates that I have belong to a religion, however. Religion has a definition in the dictionary, but ultimately it's not something definable. Shit, atheism, because it really, honestly and truly is a belief, could be said to be a religion. Hinduism, is not one religion, in fact it's generic label for a million of different traditions based on the Vedas, Rig Vedas, etc belonging to the Aryan tribes plus, the indigenous religions of that area. Buddhism doesn't really have any gods according to Sidhartha (the Buddha that founded the tradition as we know it), but he stated that if people wanted to believe in them they could. (And when Chan (Chinese) and Zen (Japanese) Buddhism came around, the various sparks off of them created gods out of the various bodhisatvas. (That's a spot where some one could say that people actually created gods.)

Religion is there if you like it. Spirituality is there if you want to explore it. Otherwise, bugger all.

[The STE]

My general beliefs are Buddhist, but my views about "God" are Deist. "God," such as it is, exists, but in a very etherial sense. It is an omnipotent being, and being such, is WAY about any sort of human comprehension. Typical religious beliefs tend to personify "God" with human traits (having a gender, writing books, caring about sex, deciding who wins the Superbowl, et cetera), but "God" is in no way human. As a "creator," "God" (I'm tired of writing "God" like that, so I'll call it Pat from now on, nice gender neutral name so those batty feminists like Haunted don't go for the short hairs at me), didn't just make existance in seven days. The world came into existance through scientific means. Pat doesn't decide what happens, care where we stick our respective sex organs, have a "chosen people," worry about what day it is, or listen to Wolfmother. Pat simply exists. Any attempt to wonder what Pat is like is futile, because, again, humans are ill-equipped to comprehend real omnipotence.

[Posher778]

@Murderdoll> There are actually ways of knowing that there is God, they're just really unconventional and no one would care to know about them. Its just interesting at how many people see the world as without a God. I can't judge anyone else by their belief, it just kind of confuses me. If there was no God, then how do you guys believe that the universe actually came to be. Do you really think it was just THERE, at the start of time?