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10-24-2006, 08:40 AM
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We will never have a completely honest politician...Why? Because people don't REALLY want to know the truth...Argue if you like, BUT...We discussed it at length, considered MANY things...So, think about it indepth...No one is perfect and not everyone agrees with everyone else...If ANY politician was simply himself, he would not be accepted by the general majority...An honest person would be ousted pretty damned quick... Personality aside...What about the issues?...How far do you think a politician would get if he expressed his TRUE feelings on welfare recipients?...Homeless people?...Abortion?...Gay marriage?...and SOOO many other issues? They are puppets because they HAVE to be...in order to be elected and to stay in office...They HAVE to tell people what they want to hear, or the people won't listen...Think about it... Hell, people have a problem with ME at times because I'm honest...
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i tink it has to do a lot more with the people who put people into power.
and why. the lobbyists .. the people who have something to gain (power/financially) by putting a certain person into power. only a small percentage of people actually understand what is going on politically .. entheusiasts and conspiracy theorists mostly .. everyone else is uneducated and uninformed other than what they pick up on the news. (scratching the surface at best) (i'm in this category myself) this majority of the people vote for who looks like they know what they are doing .. based on what they are told. or they vote based on what the person looks like - the image. the lobbyists exert a lot of influence. they dont need someone in power they cant buy. they wont financially back them - or back the people who can also provide influence to their cause. the people who own the oil run the planet. I know this sounds simple and childish .. but there is a a lot of truth there.
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10-24-2006, 08:55 AM
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Oil definately is power. i think we are a long way off from the fusion powered world we would all like. And even then, what does the middle east have to fear? Even if we discoverted a viable, inexpensive inexhaustable power supply tomorrow, theose types of things require a very important product to work:
Plastic. And corn based polymers arent exactly catching on like wildfire yet. And even if those two things came to pass TOMORROW, i garuntee you they would STILL have something of value: Sand. We are still using silicon chips, and EVEN IF we stopped using them, everything will be (most likely) running on fiver optics and stored in holographic drives or somethign similar, still requiring sand. Which they have a lot of (unfortunately for them, so does everyone else. but everyone seems to have oil too.)
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10-24-2006, 09:00 AM
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At this point in time, if the Dems put up a half decayed bluegill in a cowboy hat I think I'd vote for it.
I like Obama as well. I was really hoping he'd run. Unfortunately, I think it might still be too early for the first African American president. I hope to hell I'm wrong, but living in the midwest for the last 3 years hasn't done a lot to console me.
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10-24-2006, 09:20 AM
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Death of a President
Has anyone seen this
Death of a president Channel 4 in the UK have been showing this recently. It's a fictional account of what would happen if good ol' bush was shot. Held up by a secret service bodyguard in his dying moments after being shot in the stomach, this is President Bush being assassinated. Surrounded by a crowd of panicking onlookers, the American leader is pictured just seconds after being gunned down by a sniper following an anti-war demonstration. But rather than a repeat of JFK's shooting or Ronald Reagan's attempted assassination, this shocking image is part of a new Channel Four show. The dramatic scene, which has caused outrage among Americans, has been created by a British film company for a programme about the effect of the War On Terror. In Death Of A President, which will premiere at the Toronto Film Festival later this month (SEPT)before being shown on Channel 4's satellite channel More4 in October, the assassination is a starting point for a retrospective fictional documentary about what happened next. This scene, which was created by putting the President's face onto an actor with digital wizardry, shows him being gunned down just hours after driving past an anti-war demonstration while doing a talk in Chicago. The two hour drama, in which events are 're-created' by the use of footage and interviews, shows the media storm around the War on Terror as Muslims are fingered as the culprits before there is any evidence. In the wake of the assassination, authorities focus on a Syrian-born man in the search for the culprit. 'In the hunt for the killer, this will show how America has been affected by the War on Terror,' said a spokesman. 'It is about the polarisation of America in all the events post 9/11.' But the drama, which will be shown on Channel 4 after being screened on More4, has angered some Americans who have seen four presidents assassinated while in office. Eric Staal of Republicans Abroad in London said last night: 'I wonder if they are celebrating the idea that the president could be assassinated. * no I think we all wished * :rolleyes: 'We've seen from early in his presidency the extremes that the political Left are willing to go to vilify him. This takes this vilification to a new and disturbing level. 'It is an appalling way to treat the head of state of another country.' While a White House spokesman said: 'This does not dignify a comment (sic).' :D
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Would he/she feel the unbelievable pressure of being constantly aware that every move they make and every word they speak would be held up to the strongest scrutiny EVER in history, and that they would set an example for every other minority who might ever consider running for President?..Always waiting for the masses to avow "See?...We KNEW that wouldn't work"...And fear that their failure would mean the death of any chance that any minority might ever have thereafter?...Americans (in general) DO have a tendency to attribute the actions of a few, to an entire race, group, gender, etcetera... Would they be assassinated?...Unfortunately...We (the country as a whole) aren't as 'progressive' as we would like to believe or have the rest of the world think... Even if someone of another race and/or gender WAS actually given a chance...They would never REALLY be given a chance...
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Obama would be nice. Really nice. I'd like to see a woman in office, but if and only if she had the country's best intrest in mind. It's like when Elizabeth Dole ran for Senate here in NC. A bunch of feminist supported her even though she is so anti women's rights (on most women's rights- to chose, day care, working, etc) that's it's not funny. I don't want some radical right wing female (essentially, what I would consider to be a "tool") in office.
Go ahead and beat me, but Hillary doesn't scare me they way she scares other people. I think she's got a huge set of ovarian power. However, as a human, she has the great potential to fuck up.
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How history making would that be? the first female president is the wife of a former president...
"Bill, this is my house now, bitch. Go make me some waffles."
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'89-'93 George Bush '93-'01 Bill Clinton '01-'09 Geoerge Bush Jr. '09-'13 or even '17 Hillary Clinton? Seems too much like battling royal families to me. The system was set up to eliminate the Aristocracy, but it seems that's what we're stuck with:mad:
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