Serial Killers

[Nikkif8]

Thanks Trip, this thread was meant to be fun in the aspect of movies and how a lot of serial killers are what makes the movies. Also I don't agree that we can just study the psychology of serial killers, we have to study THEM to get that information, none of them are hardly the same. They all vary drastically from thier backgrounds. Some did show signs as children but some didn't. This thread is supposed to be fun and more about the movies then anything.

[Haunted]

I would rather that they not be so that we don't have to study them. We can create our own monsters in our head, and they won't actually hurt anyone.

I realize that in reading this it may seem as if I'm taking an argumentative tone, and I don't mean to at all. Please don't think I'm trying to be an asshole. I'm just trying to point out that the fact that there are people out there who actually torture and kill people for their own pleasure is very disturbing. For example, what Fish did to little Grace was beyond horrible, and then he wrote her mum a detailed letter. That is so awful and hurtful.

I just think that with all the horrors in the world that we're now aware of... *shudders* I really can't even read the "True Crime" section any more. I'm cool with the fantasy, but I'm growing away from the brutal killing type films and more toward the (I hate this term) supernatural types. There's just too much of that junk in reality and... you know?

I think that's where people are coming from, and I think that in the wake of all of this violence, many people are growing more and more weary of the "real thing." ...Even some of us ol' horror buffs.

The language on the necklace is Sanskrit (took it in college as part of my BA), and the word is "ahimsa." It means, "nonviolence."

[crabapple]

Word.

[azathoth777]

Aberrant behavior is facinating, and serial killing is about as aberrant as you can get. I have many books on serial killers, and even a few on killer kids. It's interseting to see what people are capable of and what, if anything, drives them to it. How can someone be a loving husband and father, a pillar of the comunity, and go out and tear apart another human being every other week....
Could I be a victim; could I just flip one day and start doing that; could my neighbor be a serial killer, my girl/boyfriend, my father....
This, and more, is what makes them so 'popular'.
To those outside they are normal people, until there caught. They could be anyone. Someone here my be one.....

-Serial Killer Statistics -

The USA has 76% of the worlds serial killers.

Europe in second, has 17%. England has produced 28% of the European total; Germany produces 27%, and France produces 13%.

California leads in the US with the most Serial Homicide cases that have occured. Texas, New York, Illinois, and Florida follow shortly behind.
Maine has the lowest occurence of serial murders - none. Hawaii, Montana, North Dakota, Delaware, and Vermont each have had only one case of a serial murder.
84% of American killers are caucasian.

16% are black.

Men make up at least 90% of the world wide total of serial killers.

65% of victims are female.

89% of victims are white.

44% of all killers start in their twenties.

26% start in their teens.

24% start in their thirties.
Out of all the killers, 86% are heterosexual.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by azathoth777
Aberrant behavior is facinating, and serial killing is about as aberrant as you can get. I have many books on serial killers, and even a few on killer kids. It's interseting to see what people are capable of and what, if anything, drives them to it. How can someone be a loving husband and father, a pillar of the comunity, and go out and tear apart another human being every other week....
Could I be a victim; could I just flip one day and start doing that; could my neighbor be a serial killer, my girl/boyfriend, my father....
This, and more, is what makes them so 'popular'.
To those outside they are normal people, until there caught. They could be anyone. Someone here my be one.....

-Serial Killer Statistics -

The USA has 76% of the worlds serial killers.

Europe in second, has 17%. England has produced 28% of the European total; Germany produces 27%, and France produces 13%.

California leads in the US with the most Serial Homicide cases that have occured. Texas, New York, Illinois, and Florida follow shortly behind.
Maine has the lowest occurence of serial murders - none. Hawaii, Montana, North Dakota, Delaware, and Vermont each have had only one case of a serial murder.
84% of American killers are caucasian.

16% are black.

Men make up at least 90% of the world wide total of serial killers.

65% of victims are female.

89% of victims are white.

44% of all killers start in their twenties.

26% start in their teens.

24% start in their thirties.
Out of all the killers, 86% are heterosexual.

funny but i dont find it fascinating at all ..

unless you are a phsychologist or in law enforcement i cant understand the attraction to this kind of information.


i do understand being interested in things ..

some people like cars .. want to know how they work - keep stats ..

some people like aircraft - same thing.

I like movies and a ton of other stuff ...

these interests enrich peoples lives. I cant comprehend being fascinated with the minds and methods and motivations of the foulest scum on the planet.

to me i draw a comparrison with being fascinated with shit.

there is shit in the world .. we shit every day.

i'm really not interested in shit .. whats in it .. why i's brown.
how big some peoples shit is, how many times they shit.

i just wipe it off and flush it away.

i suppose that if there was a reason for me to need to know about shit (i was a Dr.) then it would be interesting to me but i'm not.
the information does nothing to enrich my life or stimulate my mind because i find shit unpleasant.

i guess i'm speaking soley for myself here but i have no interest or find no fascination with human pieces of shit. talking about them outside the police station gives most of them exactly what they wanted when they set out to destroy lives in the 1st place .. attention.

i like horror films for the goofy escapism and the attempt at thrills ..i have always preferred the supernatural films because they arent real.

i guess i've always been uncomfortable when the lines of entertainment get blurred with unpleasant reality - as exploitation films often do.
this whole serial killer thing plays into that very closely.

am i saying everyone should think like me? - nope

i'm just saying that because the thinking is so foreign to me - i i do really wonder - and question the thought process of people who are fascinated with shit.

[PR3SSUR3]

Not to start a political landslide or a debate that might cause arguing amongst the family, but I took this thread something along the lines of "what was your favorite kill in a film?" I understand that the two questions are different. But I didnt get this as a "glorifying" thread

It was for favourite serial killer, in real life or in the movies.

Personally, my fave is Ed Gein because I love the way he had sex with the bodies, and second best is Ted Bundy because he killed all those women.

But am I talking about real life or in the movies?

Fascinating.

[urgeok]

exactly !

[Spec7ral]

i get the feeling urgeok's dad was the son of sam. or maybe ed gein!

[PR3SSUR3]

Hmmm... so you're saying he might be the resulting child from Ed's intercourse with poor, dead, Mary Hogan - an act he always denied because she 'smelled too bad'?

:eek:

[psycho_butthead]

In real life I am into Ted Bundy.

In the movies I like Chuckie from Child's Play and I like Leatherface and Otis from House of 1000 Corpses.