The New Classic Monster ?

[novakru]

How about taking the theme in 'Unbreakable' to the next level?
I am sure that if you twisted up enough hero/anti-hero characters with the horror pacing you could actually come up with something somewhat original?

I think maybe I lost your point there urge.....:D

[urgeok]

Originally posted by novakru

I think maybe I lost your point there urge.....:D

thats ok, i didnt really expect it to go anywhere .. just 'thinking out loud'

[The Demeter]

I always thought that the concept of Phantasm brought us a new horror Icon that didnt really fit into any of those categories.

[crabapple]

I loved the first "Phantasm" especially, and I think if that had been a more solid series of films, the world would be a better place. The news about the "new series" of Phantasm films New Line is planning turned me off at first until I read that Coscarelli is involved as a producer, and that they are conceiving of these as "BIG" horror films with an epic story arc and with Mike as the "Luke Skywalker of horror" which I assume means that he first appears as a hero who presumably could conquer the evil and later we find that he is part of it, born of it in some way.

The thing about the serial killer mythos trend, and this is just my silly opinion, but the thing about it is that it signals to me that moviegoers are fixating on boring entertainment that sort of copies itself. I freaking can't stand any of these idiot serial killer movies. I don't care!!!!! I don't see a commercial for the newest thing and say "Hot damn, a new serial killer movie is out! Gotta go see that so I can be horrified by the clever contraptions and brilliant plans of the new Hannibal Lecter!" Please, this trend sucks!

Seven I liked, and Silence of the Lambs I liked, but after that the serial killer movies have become carbon copies, not terribly unlike the slasher clones that followed in the wake of Halloween...yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm ignoring the "Psycho and giallo" discussion, but again, this is just my silly wacky opinion. But could it be that audiences increasingly seek entertainment that requires no imagination on the part of the viewer?

[The Demeter]

Wow! You really took the words right out of my mouth about the whole serial killer thing. You have support!

[crabapple]

Hey, let's start a "Serial Killer Movies Really Suck, A Lot!" thread. Hell, a website.

[novakru]

Originally posted by crabapple
I loved the first "Phantasm" especially, and I think if that had been a more solid series of films, the world would be a better place. The news about the "new series" of Phantasm films New Line is planning turned me off at first until I read that Coscarelli is involved as a producer, and that they are conceiving of these as "BIG" horror films with an epic story arc and with Mike as the "Luke Skywalker of horror" which I assume means that he first appears as a hero who presumably could conquer the evil and later we find that he is part of it, born of it in some way.

The thing about the serial killer mythos trend, and this is just my silly opinion, but the thing about it is that it signals to me that moviegoers are fixating on boring entertainment that sort of copies itself. I freaking can't stand any of these idiot serial killer movies. I don't care!!!!! I don't see a commercial for the newest thing and say "Hot damn, a new serial killer movie is out! Gotta go see that so I can be horrified by the clever contraptions and brilliant plans of the new Hannibal Lecter!" Please, this trend sucks!

Seven I liked, and Silence of the Lambs I liked, but after that the serial killer movies have become carbon copies, not terribly unlike the slasher clones that followed in the wake of Halloween...yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm ignoring the "Psycho and giallo" discussion, but again, this is just my silly wacky opinion. But could it be that audiences increasingly seek entertainment that requires no imagination on the part of the viewer?

Sometimes you make so much sense,it's scary....but anyway-to your question about audiences seeking brain-dead entertainment?
That can go both ways:
On the one hand our society is very stressful...yes,we do not have to worry about making fire from scratch,where our next meal is coming from-if it's even coming and the fact that we might get eaten by something with large smelly teeth-BUT,today's world we have more stuff ...just MORE STUFF and it would really,really suck if we got shot on the highway.
So coming home and watching a bland carbon copy mind-numbing horror flick is a very cozy way to spend a coupla hours.
So,an audience will go see the non-imagination movie,hence-they make money,so why not make 15 other movies that have the same plot but different title? As long as Hiershel gets rich, why should he care or waste time on something that is truly a Scary Original Movie??
Yes,it's all our fault there are crappy horror out there BUT on the other hand...
I do think there are enough of us out here that really dig the intelligent,well thought-out,nicely paced,make you piss your pants horror and ,Thank The Lord, they do get made from time to time:) Yeah,ok,rarely...
But I am riding on the high of seeing a good horror flick just recently so I can afford to be optimistic.

If you could just get all horror fans to unite and boycott .....LOL,oh wait,I just forgot where I was...NM:D

[Miss Olivia]

Mindless movies are nice sometimes, like eating at McDonald's.
Of course, if you ate McDonald's all the time you would die, and if you watched dumb movies all the time your imagination would die.....so I guess dumb movies are like anything else....use in moderation.

[crabapple]

Sounds like reasonable advice to me.

[The Demeter]

I would love to have an anti-serial killer movie thread or websight. I already boycott them, unfortunatly its seems that a lot of others who are desperately seeking to be knowen as a horror fan, flock to them in great numbers and pretend to like them. Please, nobody support them!