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Old 07-24-2006, 06:16 AM
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Now as far as The simpsons
sure that's only a cartoon
but its being watched by very young minds
who think man lets do that to our cat!
and regardless what the rating is the simple fact is
Its a cartoon and kids watch cartoons.

Most people who do abuse animals
in real life most likely learned it off TV

Now here is what you need to ask why would a writer wish
to add something like that to a movie answer: cause he watched
shows like the simpsons when he was a kid.

The purpose of a Horror movie is to Scare people
not Gross them out! there a very fine line between the two.
Right, and people kill because of video games.
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:20 AM
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So, to clarify, you're talking about animals being killed off in the story--you're not talking about actual living animals being killed during the making of the movie. This disturbs you. And you feel these scenes promote a hatred of animals. Well, I don't know what to say to that...except to say that, you've brought up the classic debate of whether our media affects us and to what degree.

I always felt that the answer was somewhere in the middle...nebulous. That is to say, I don't believe watching violent films, for example, automatically makes a person violent. However, to claim that imagery and stories have no effect on people at all is also unbelievable...we watch and buy our media precisely because it has an effect--we react to it. So in my opinion, the answer isn't something that can be pinned down, but I think it is valuable to discuss it.
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:23 AM
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Re: Re:

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Now as far as The simpsons
sure that's only a cartoon
but its being watched by very young minds
who think man lets do that to our cat!
and regardless what the rating is the simple fact is
Its a cartoon and kids watch cartoons.
Don't say ''regardless what the rating'', the rating is there for a reason, to let parents know if the content maybe inappropriate for kids. If the parents ignore this warning then it's their fault.


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Now here is what you need to ask why would a writer wish
to add something like that to a movie answer: cause he watched
shows like the simpsons when he was a kid.
Contrary to your belief, kids watching the Simpsons isn't the root of all evil.
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Methen

Now as far as The simpsons
sure that's only a cartoon
but its being watched by very young minds
who think man lets do that to our cat!
and regardless what the rating is the simple fact is
Its a cartoon and kids watch cartoons.

Most people who do abuse animals
in real life most likely learned it off TV

Now here is what you need to ask why would a writer wish
to add something like that to a movie answer: cause he watched
shows like the simpsons when he was a kid.

The purpose of a Horror movie is to Scare people
not Gross them out! there a very fine line between the two.
I've grew up watching Tom & Jerry, Bugs Bunny and countless 80's catoons that where violent. I've never once hurt or killed an animal, in fact I'm a vegetarion. Are you? If not, animals die for you every day. I don't care if you are or not and I'm not trying to preach, but it seems a little bit hypocritical to worry about animals that die in movies(even though they don't really die, there are strick rule about these things), then go out and have a hamburger.
I'm always amazed at things like this, as the brutal death of people is fine, but a dog...
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Old 07-24-2006, 06:45 AM
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As a writer i can tell you a single simple reason why about 99% of innocent animals are killed in a movie:

To make the killer completely despicable. Killing a person is rather commonplace in movies, but killing an animal in one is an ultimate act of evil . Animals are most often portrayed (like kids) as innocents, and as a result, are a great tool for manipulating the audience.

Look at Dog Soldiers as an example of both. Cooper is the good guy. He not only refuses to shoot the dog at the beinning of the movie, he also pets and looks after Sam later on. Ryan, on the other hand, is the bad guy. he not only kills the dog at the beginning, he tries to kill Sam a couple of times. It is nothing more than influencing the audience, which is all a movie is trying to do anyway.

And not to sound too much like a jerk, but get over it. The Simpsons is a cartoon, so is Southpark. And Family guy, and American dad, Anime, etc. Like austin said, if the parents arent watching what their kids watch, then it's their fault if the kids end up warped.

Hell yes, this kind of imagery can affect people. I saqw Alien at 5, and it stuck with me my whole life. However, due to my upbringing, i am not out performing chest operations on unwilling subjects, i mertely have a strong love of sci fi, horror and monster movies in general.
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By the way, if you take antibiotics to get rid of a bug you have, if you use antibacterial soap to kill the germs on your hands, you're killing animals.
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Old 07-24-2006, 08:01 AM
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I dunoo...seemed relevant to the topic in some vague way.
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Old 07-24-2006, 08:07 AM
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RE:

To make the killer completely despicable. Killing a person is rather common place in movies, but killing an animal in one is an ultimate act of evil . Animals are most often portrayed (like kids) as innocents, and as a result, are a great tool for manipulating the audience

Oh well if you really want to do that
just show little kids getting tore apart
piece by piece with the full bloodie details!

Then you really will have a completely Despicable killer!
Hmmm Not to meation a lot of people vomiting there guts all over the place.

I mean if your going to go out for evil
Hell go all the way!

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