Is the genre dying?

[kung-fu-jesus]

i dont think that its just the horror genre that is dead, damn near all genres are dying if not all ready dead.

forr example how many time have we seen bullettime effects int the last 5 years. or how many movies have you gone to and half way through the film you guessed the ending and were right.

the things just keep repeating cause after 60' some years of film the idea well has run dryer than hell, and that is dry.

also how you said that underworld wasnt scary, it wasnt horror it was gothic action. just because a film has supernatural creatures( vampires, ghost, werewolfs, demons, ect:) dosnt mean it is sopsed to be scary.

also we as movie buff's( horror or otherwise) we tend to expect to much. wether we get over hyped from previews or review. we go and see something that is a good film but because of over advertising and false advertising( how many times have you seen something in a trailer, went and saw the film and it wasnt in the film) it fell shourt of our expectations.

also the fact that we are a jaded and desensitized society as a whole it takes an extreamly brutal, violent, horrific, or just fucked up thing to truly effect us and make us feel.

as for the little teen's in the audience that jump at the least scary thing. chances are they dont know true horror or tragity( many thing classify). so they tking it is scary while we sit in the back row thinking there is something wrong with the picture because we wernt scared.

i as a person dont watch horror to be scared or that i love fear, to me there just fun. the dont have to be realistic or scary. they just need to entertain you for about 2 hours. they tend to lighten the mood. they show you the other sides of people when confronted with an obstical that you hope you neveer run into yourself.

[urgeok]

i'd have to disagree with all genres being dead ... there have been some pretty amusing comedies lately .. there are a talented bunch of funny people getting regular work ..

there hasnt been much in the way of sci-fi which is a shame .. but there never was much pure sci-fi .. it was always action or horror related.
in the recent past you'd see a big sci-fi movie come out and it would be followed buy a slew of others hoping to cash in on the momentum of the 1st .. but even thats not happening now.

i think they are probably the most expensive movies to make, with the smallest audience (most women HATE sci-fi)

Horror will always have a bigger audience than sci-fi ... but i still say that home video (which took the focus off quality filmmaking) did more to harm that genre than any of the others.

[_____V_____]

Most genres are not dead, esp not Action or Comedy. There are several movies recently which have come to show that those 2 genres are the ones pulling Friday Box-Office forward. If one goes to check the top 10 each week for the past 4-5 years, that would be ample evidence.

The Matrix series, Spiderman 1 & 2, X-Men series, et al have come and redefined the action genre immensely. So did There's Something About Mary, Liar Liar, American Pie series etc. pull the comedy front forward. Actually, most movies termed as successful at the box-office in recent years have been either Action or Comedy.

Sci-Fi suffered setbacks on many fronts. The Star Wars prequels didnt do as well as everyone expected, although it managed to satisfy George Lucas's creative expertise and hardcore star-wars fans. The Matrix series could be termed sci-fi, but for most people out there they would always be categorised as Action first, Sci-Fi later.

So much so, that sci-fi is now blended with action and horror genres to be successful. I dont recall seeing a pure sci-fi movie in a longass while, last one being maybe "A.I." by Steven Spielberg...heck thats been awhile back alrite...

MI:3 takes top spot this weekend over the rest. Says something for the Action genre...

[Yellow Jacket]

Originally posted by The_Return
What kind of promise did that have? The premise is right up there with a bad 80's slasher, the actors are awful...blah. I havent bothered to see the original just because of the terrible plot. Promise? It promised to be terrible.

When I say promised (for The Ring's sake), I meant it looked promising, but the movie ended up being shit!

[urgeok]

the Ring was a good movie ..

the ring II was garbage.



whats not to like about the 1st Ring ??

[Yellow Jacket]

Originally posted by urgeok
the Ring was a good movie ..

the ring II was garbage.



whats not to like about the 1st Ring ??

First off, it was overrated. Secondly, it had a horrible, dumb plot (and I usually fall for that shit). I mean, who the fuck is afraid of a girl walking out of a video tape?!? I'd just smack the bitch and throw her back into the watery pits of her well a.k.a. her Home Sweet Home. Or, I'd just stop watching the damn video! And, when I got the "seven days" call, I'd just say "Yeah, well you're going to die in seven days" or some other smart-ass remark. It was boring, stupid, and very laughable (and I mean that in a bad way). Compared to the sequel, it does look like a classic. Too bad that's not saying much.

[urgeok]

overrated ... thats a pretty weird critique when you think of it ..

what you're suggesting is that all the people who liked it - are wrong. thats not possible for anyone else to say really.

i may have said it in the past but not now because a short while ago i realized that its a non-statement.


The Ring was a well acted, stylish, well made ghost story.

as gar as 'slapping the ghost around ... ahh .. yeah...


i didnt find it boring, i didnt find it stupid, and had none of the usual horror cliches that i would have found laughable..

I enjoued the '7 days' plot .. the mysterious video and phone bit .. the blend of classic ghosts and modern technology ..
I bought into the suspense of the race against time to solve the mystery ...the solution to save her son ...

this movie had more going for it than most 20 american slasher films combined.

it was also one of the most influencial horror movies in years (by way of the Japanese origional)

....but thats just my rating ....



:cool:

[Yellow Jacket]

Originally posted by urgeok
overrated ... thats a pretty weird critique when you think of it ..

what you're suggesting is that all the people who liked it - are wrong. thats not possible for anyone else to say really.

I'm not saying that people are wrong for their opinions. A lot of movies can be declared overrated. That basically means though a lot of people enjoyed it, I found nothing to like from the movie, especially the other people's likings of the film. That doesn't mean they're wrong, it just means I'm not agreeing with them. I still respect their opinion. Back me up here Return. You're good at this stuff.

[Miss Olivia]

Well, the old maxim applies: Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one....some of them are widely shared and some of them stink.....and some of them get pissed on.....

[_____V_____]

The Ring definitely held promise, with an original concept. The story may not be a believable one but many horror classics have been based on unbelievable premises. The end-product was a well-thought, nicely-directed and enjoyable flick.

It did have its weak points though. And pt.2 flushed it down the drain quick. Tamara could have been the next cult icon but now most of us have already forgotten her...

Like I have always believed "Watch it to enjoy it. If its good, it'll have a re-run on your player. If not, into the attic with it!"