Halloween

[johnboy3434]

*SPOILERS for all movies*

Yes, I know kill lists for famous horror icons are all over the 'Net, but I've always wanted to do one for myself, and I wanted it to be accurate (most of the lists seem to have different counts). If there are any contestations one would like to make to my list, feel free. For those who find such things uninteresting, I have another, more conversation-inducing question at the bottom of the post. Note: I plan to do similar lists with the Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street series (complete with Freddy's Nightmares) once I get the DVDs.

Michael Myers Kill List

Timeline 1: H1, H2, H4, H5, CoMM
Timeline 2: H3
Timeline 3: H1, H2, H2O, H:R
Timeline 4: RZH

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Halloween [Television Version] (1978)
Judith Myers - Died at 6:00
Phelps Garage truck driver - Seen dead at 26:26
A dog - Found dead at 47:02
Lester (dog) - Died at 54:10
Annie Brackett - Died at 1:04:22
Bob - Died at 1:15:54
Lynda - Died at 1:18:11
Count: 5 people, 2 dogs

Halloween II (1981)
Alice - Died at 12:22
Mr. Garrett - Died at 40:02
Budd - Died at 50:43
Karen Baley - Died at 52:21
Dr. Mixter - Found dead at 57:09
Janet Newhall- Died at 57:43
Veronica Alves - Found dead at 1:05:39
Jill Franco - Died at 1:08:58
The marshal - Died at 1:20:43
Count: 9 people

Halloween III: Season of the Witch (1982)
No kills (only seen in stock footage)
Count: 0

Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988)
3 unknown people - Retconned to death at 3:25
J. Black - Died at 6:43
L. Evans and 2 ambulance drivers - Partially seen dead at 17:02
Penney's mechanic - Died at 18:37
Penney's waitress - Found dead at 20:40
Sunday (dog) - Found dead at 40:56
Bucky - Died at 42:22
Pierce - Found dead at 47:40
At least 2 other policemen - Implied dead at 49:03
Deputy Logan - Found dead at 1:04:15
Kelly Meeker - Died at 1:04:31
Brady - Died at 1:07:57
Al and another hillbilly - Died at 1:18:33
A hillbilly - Died at 1:18:40
Earl - Died at 1:18:51
Count: 20 people (17 during the movie), 1 dog

Halloween 5 (1989)
The hermit - Died at 8:29
Rachel Carruthers - Died at 20:58
The OTHER Michael - Died at 38:40
Spitz - Died at 59:45
Samantha - Died at 1:00:09
2 policemen - Found dead at 1:02:52
Tina - Died at 1:07:11
4 policemen - Implied dead at 1:12:42
Eddy Hale - Died at 1:15:06
Charlie Bloch - Died at 1:19:58
At least 1 person - Seen dead at 1:20:06
Max (dog) - Found dead at 1:25:42
Count: 15 people, 1 dog

Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (1995)
A nurse - Died at 5:21
The trucker - Died at 6:39
Jamie Lloyd - Died at 19:26
Debra Strode - Died at 38:48
John Strode - Died at 52:44
Barry Simms - Died at 55:29
Tim Strode - Died at 59:50
Beth - Died at 1:00:47
A patient - Died at 1:12:14
A hospital employee - Died at 1:17:11
A person - Died at 1:17:13
Another hospital employee - Died at 1:17:20
Yet another hospital employee - Died at 1:17:30
Still another hospital employee - Died at 1:17:32
The director hates hospitals - Seen dead at 1:17:33
You get the idea - Seen dead at 1:17:34
Enough, already! - Died at 1:17:36
Another patient - Died at 1:18:33
Dr. Samuel Loomis - Implied dead at 1:24:44
Count: 19 people

Halloween H2O: Twenty Years Later (1998)
Jimmy - Found dead at 7:31
Allegre - Found dead at 7:43
Marion Wittington - Died at 8:46
Charlie - Found dead at 59:13
Sarah - Died at 1:01:08
Will Brennon - Died at 1:06:48
Count: 6 people

Halloween: Resurrection (2002)
Franklin - Died at 8:37
Willie - Died at 10:04
Laurie Strode - Died at 15:01
One nurse from Halloween II - Retconned back to life at 16:01
Two students from Halloween H2O - Retconned to death at 16:10
Charley - Died at 30:23
Bill - Died at 45:26
At least 3 rats - Found dead at 56:40
Another rat - Found dead at 57:12
Yet another rat - Found mortally wounded at 57:14
Donna - Died at 58:41
Jen - Died at 1:03:47
Jim - Died at 1:05:00
Rudy - Died at 1:07:06
Nora - Found dead at 1:17:05
The pathologist - Implied dead at 1:25:11
Count: 12 people (10 during the movie), 5 rats

Halloween [Unrated Director's Cut] (2007)
Elvis (rat) - Pronounced dead at 3:42
A cat - Seen dead at 7:19
A dog - Seen dead at 7:34
Another cat - Seen dead at 7:38
The bully - Died at 11:26
Ronnie White - Died at 18:58
Steven Haley - Died at 20:46
Judith Myers - Died at 23:56
A nurse - Died at 37:20
Noel - Died at 45:47
Kendall - Died at 46:03
Gloria - Seen dead at 47:02
A guard - Seen dead at 48:18
Another guard - Seen dead at 48:22
Max Ismael - Died at 49:35
Joe Grizzley - Died at 53:29
A coyote - Found dead at 1:07:36
Bob - Died at 1:11:34
Lynda - Died at 1:13:13
Mason Strode - Died at 1:15:50
Cynthia Strode - Died at 1:16:55
Paul - Died at 1:27:00
A policeman - Died at 1:35:00
Another policeman - Died at 1:35:15
Count: 19 people, 2 cats, 1 rat, 1 dog, 1 coyote

Timeline 1 Count: 68 people, 4 dogs
Timeline 2 Count: No kills
Timeline 3 Count: 32 people, 2 dogs, 5 rats
Timeline 4 Count: 19 people, 2 cats, 1 rat, 1 dog, 1 coyote
Grand Total: 105 people, 6 rats, 5 dogs, 2 cats, 1 coyote

The surgery room slaughter in CoMM was a nightmare to figure out, what with the damn-near-blinding strobe effect and all. There may well have been more kills in that scene (and you can argue that at least two more are implied), but those were all I could make out. Quite frankly, the whole scene was unnecessary.

Anyway, my question (it's in the poll) is: which existing timeline (if any) would you like the inevitable next movie in the series to follow?

[Roderick Usher]

how about an option of "No more Michael Myers, please"

[VampiricClown]

Originally Posted by Roderick Usher

how about an option of "No more Michael Myers, please"

That's where my vote is going.

[johnboy3434]

Originally Posted by Roderick Usher

how about an option of "No more Michael Myers, please"

That would be option 2: Pick up after Season of the Witch. Just out of curiosity, though, why no more Michael? Are you too hung up on Freddy and Jason?

[Roderick Usher]

I am sick to death of Michael, Freddy, Jason, Pinhead, Candyman and all the other 80's/90's shit. I don't want to see another HALLOWEEN movie. I didn't think RZs version was as bad as it could have been, but that's hardly an endorsement you'd want to put on the DVD box.

The original films are great. The second and sometimes even third installment of a franchise can be okay, but endless sequels cheapen the product and it's ability to thrill.

Fresh ideas are out there, but they get pushed aside in favor of remakes and sequels and I sick of it. If you love Micheal, maybe you should try out one of the new takes on the 80s slasher flick like HATCHET or BEHIND THE MASK: THE RISE OF LESLIE VERNON - and leave the past in the past.

Christ, but these crazy fucks are the foundations of what horror is, they are classics how could you get sick of them!

[VampiricClown]

Originally Posted by Takisha.Erin

Christ, but these crazy fucks are the foundations of what horror is, they are classics how could you get sick of them!

Yes, they are our boogeymen, but when they are done to death, we learn to care less. Fred Krueger used to be scary. Now he's as comical as, well, FredDY Krueger. There is no point to keep reviving characters.

[Roderick Usher]

Originally Posted by Takisha.Erin

Christ, but these crazy fucks are the foundations of what horror is, they are classics how could you get sick of them!

When I want to see them , I put on the original. I probably watch HALLOWEEN (JC's not RZ's) at least once a month.

But Freddy, Jason, Micheal, etc. are far from the foundations of horror. They aren't even the founding fathers of horror film - that's for Nosferatu, Frankenstein's, Der Golem etc.

Horror goes back to the cave dwellers. Fear is the most primal emotion. Horror tales are as old as written language. The Ballad of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, The Odyssey - all packed with monsters and murderers.

Horror goes back a little further than 1980. I understand liking these guys, but man has more things to fear than these four or five boogeymen and I'd like to hear some new stories.

[CrimsonFiend138]

I love Michael Myers and the Halloween franchise and I will continue to watch them and also other franchises. Crap sequels are a part of the horror genre. I would love to see what they do next no matter the route they take(as long as it takes place on earth).

[Posher778]

How about, no more, for any of them. In fact, let's burn all the sequels that killed the original. (except Halloween 2 and Friday 2+3)