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Old 06-30-2004, 08:18 AM
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That was the catch, they got it wrong :)
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:06 AM
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This is such an interesting thread.

I dont understand something though. So Hell isnt pits of fire and torture? If God isnt going to punish Jews and Muslims to eternal pain in hell, then what happens to them? And what happens to Atheists?

So many questions....
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:10 AM
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This is such an interesting thread.

I dont understand something though. So Hell isnt pits of fire and torture? If God isnt going to punish Jews and Muslims to eternal pain in hell, then what happens to them? And what happens to Atheists?

So many questions....
Well, in hell, you do all kinds of NON-christian things. Listen to loud music, drink, fool around, shoot at annoying little rat-dogs that yip all night....
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:11 AM
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Well, in hell, you do all kinds of NON-christian things. Listen to loud music, drink, fool around, shoot at annoying little rat-dogs that yip all night....
oh no, wouldnt want to live like that for eternity!
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:13 PM
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oh no, wouldnt want to live like that for eternity!
I'd rather live my afterlife in a Hell like that than live my afterlife in a Heaven based on submission and servitude.
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:42 PM
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You people have a slightly warped vision of heaven and hell.

Once you are in heaven, it isn't like you do nothing but pray and serve God all day long. Heaven is the place where you are rewarded for the good life you lead while you are on Earth. You would experience an eternity of the most pleasurable feelings imaginable. (Picture your best orgasm only a couple million times greater pleasurable feelings.)

As for Hell, you don't get to smoke weed and drink 40's all day while screwing numerous hoes in Hell either. It is an eternity of the most painful agony you can imagine. (Actually, you probably can't imagine the suffering. It's inconceivable to us.)

Stingy is right about Purgatory. That is where you would end up if you lead a pretty good life, but died with some sins on your soul. (Not major sins, for those you would go to Hell.) In purgatory, you experience the same suffering as Hell, however it is temporary and eventually you will end up being admitted into Heaven.

Limbo was the place that the good souls who had died collected before Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins, thereby allowing us to enter Heaven. Once Jesus died for the sins of man, those souls were admitted into Heaven.
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:57 PM
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You people have a slightly warped vision of heaven and hell.

Once you are in heaven, it isn't like you do nothing but pray and serve God all day long. Heaven is the place where you are rewarded for the good life you lead while you are on Earth. You would experience an eternity of the most pleasurable feelings imaginable. (Picture your best orgasm only a couple million times greater pleasurable feelings.)

As for Hell, you don't get to smoke weed and drink 40's all day while screwing numerous hoes in Hell either. It is an eternity of the most painful agony you can imagine. (Actually, you probably can't imagine the suffering. It's inconceivable to us.)

Stingy is right about Purgatory. That is where you would end up if you lead a pretty good life, but died with some sins on your soul. (Not major sins, for those you would go to Hell.) In purgatory, you experience the same suffering as Hell, however it is temporary and eventually you will end up being admitted into Heaven.

Limbo was the place that the good souls who had died collected before Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins, thereby allowing us to enter Heaven. Once Jesus died for the sins of man, those souls were admitted into Heaven.
Actually, we were discussing a story that Vodstok was writing.
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:59 PM
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I think it's crazy how religious people are like atheists when it comes to science. They are quick to say that scientific explanations are myths ... despite the obvious piles of evidence. Yet, they believe whole-heartedly in something that has no evidence at all. It's like --- Hello? Did you get your definitions for "truth" and "myth" completely mixed up?
I believe in both. Science is wonderful! It helps us to understand worldly things. What is the sun? Oh, it's a burning ball of gas. Where does rain come from? Ahh, condensation in the air. How come that fish at the bottom of the ocean has a light on it's head? Oh, that's evolution, oh okay.

I just happen to also believe that all of these wheels were set in motion by a being far greater than ourselves.

I do not believe that science has disproved the existance of God. (And I'm sure there's plenty of scientists out there trying to do it, too.) To believe in God, one must have faith. The faith to believe in something that they have never seen and that has never been proven to exist. It's a tough thing for a lot of people to do.

Since we were quoting the Bible earlier, I'll leave you with this quote...

After Jesus was crucified, he rose from the dead. Two of the apostles saw his empty tomb and ran back to tell the other apostles. One of the other apostles, Thomas, was completely skeptical and said that he wouldn't believe that Jesus had risen from the dead until he could put his finger through the nail holes in his hands and put his hand into the sword hole in his side. The next day, while the apostles were all having dinner in a locked room (They were being semi-persecuted for having associated with Jesus.) when out of nowhere, Jesus appeared. He spoke to Thomas and told him to go ahead and put his hands in his wounds. Thomas didn't even need to, he broke down and cried for doubting Jesus. Jesus told him...

"You believe because you have seen, but blessed are those who have not seen, yet still believe."
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Old 06-30-2004, 02:00 PM
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Actually, we were discussing a story that Vodstok was writing.
I know that. I read the thread. That was why I called it a 'slightly warped vision' and not flat out wrong. ;) I was just mentioning what Christianity believes.
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Old 06-30-2004, 07:56 PM
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i would say god looks like this
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