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Old 04-03-2006, 08:43 AM
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Old 04-03-2006, 08:56 AM
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Two completely different kinds of fun with booze and weed. I prefer weed on weekdays, cuz I don't like to move around that much... but on weekends I gotz to git fonky wit da likka.
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Old 04-03-2006, 09:45 AM
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If you absolutely must play alcohol and cannabis off against one another, it should be noted nobody has ever officially died from cannabis abuse.

However, more people die directly from smoking than from alcohol - and tobacco is often an integral part of inhaling cannabis.

If it is smoked on its own, it leaves the harmful psychotic effects of long term use. Scientists are certain cannabis can serve as a trigger of latent schizophrenia, a possibility that seems highly likely to anyone who has ever experienced disorientation, confusion and paranoia after smoking a joint - i.e. everyone.

There is a large defensive crowd of dope-takers, and it is often applauded as a safer alternative to alcohol - that it is a peaceful, sociable drug as opposed to the violence and anti-social behaviour attributed to hard drinkers.

Cannabis is generally illegal because the consequences of its use lead to a more damaged society than with alcohol, not because of taxation.

I doubt many constant heavy users have ever reached professional and respected heights through the lethargic and introspective nature of the drug, and by contrast many achievers have been brought down by alcohol.
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Old 04-03-2006, 10:42 AM
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:18 PM
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Hrmm...i tend to disagree..
if it smokes it floats ..if it floats ..other people inhale.
It has been proven that a person dakking it up in a room full of people..the non dakkers will always be affected..possibly come out as stoned.
There is no justification for either smokers,
or drinkers.
'note' em a tobacco smoker' so em not trying to come across holier than thou'.
The original arguement is weed vs alcohol..
Heres my theory...if it enables you to think straight or perform normally ..then its harmful.to yourself.
I personally will not sit n attempt to hold a conversation with a drinker or a dakker once they have had a few..its like talking to a newborn baby.
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:23 PM
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Easily alcohol. i think weed is kind of boring and it makes me feel like shit for some reason, and I gain a rediculous amount of weight everytime i smoke it because i cant stop eating, and it kills too much coordination, and its easy to get tested for. just a couple reasons of why i dont like it. mixed with alcohol, its great. but on its own, alcohol totally wins.
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:53 PM
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Nontheless, cannabis remains illegal in most quarters, while alcohol is not.

If the drug was made legal, children would have far easier access to it and there would not be such a stigma attached to indulging in getting stoned. There should be a stigma attached to using cannabis - it is increasingly leading to psychosis in regular users.

I have doubts about there being many many successful wealthy happy healthy people who SMOKE every single day in the world (let alone ones you know), but I'm sure most pro-cannabis users will make similar claims. Try taking away their dope then, and saying "no more" - do you think they will still be happy? The detached "high" provided by the THC is an addictive altered state.

Lots of professional people consume alcohol on a daily basis, but in order to remain professional, they must restrict their units of intake. Getting stoned every night leads to respiratory and psychological trauma quicker than any liver-damaging effects of alcohol.

There is of course no right or wrong in the case of any recreational drug (Ecstasy or Acid? Speed or Cocaine?), and it is up to the user to decide his or her intake. The real problem is when it stops becoming fun (which it does, and quicker than most people think) but must continue as a habit, as a need - all the while further deteriorating health with the fun and the old buzz long gone.
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Old 04-03-2006, 04:18 PM
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Children as young as 10-12 are easily accessing marijuana now..
It has nothing to do with legalisation..its more to do with control.
Right now there is no legal age to buy a tinnie..even though its not right and shouldnt be done...its happening.
I live in south auckland ..NZ ..equivelant to
the bronx in the usa...
Ths is the trend we found a copycat from what they have seen on movies..
old man befreinds child..
offers child money...xboxes..clothes..drugs.
old man now turns out to be a gang prospect who tells the child that they owe big time for all the gifts..
child is sent to recruit his/her mates..hitting the schools.
We have in the past year expelled five 12 yr olds.
If govt made it legal then age restrictions can be put in place..etc...
However ..for as long as there are elders who are willing to buy alcohol/smokes for under age youths ..then we are hitting a dead end .
Now..marijuana is being laced with 'P' to get them hooked faster and on a more deadlier drug.
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:41 PM
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Now..marijuana is being laced with 'P' to get them hooked faster and on a more deadlier drug.
That is total crap. Don't beleive eveything the news tells you. For one thing what dealer is going to waste money lacing tinnies with P? This is just media feed scaremongering.

and South Auckland is hardly like The Bronx dude.
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:54 PM
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alcohol can be fine in moderation, just as weed can be devostating when overused.
pot makes you lazy to a ridiculous degree, unfocused, uncoordinated, forgetfull, unable to remember anything new, and will eat your money as anything else would.

its really unfair to say alcohol is worse when you are thinking of an alcoholic versus an ocasional smoker. besides not everyone is violent when drunk. and you can drink and not get smashed to shit. these things really should get considered...

i really have a problem with pot because i have personally known people to get lost and throw everything away for it. it's pathetic and sad and really hurts the people who love you. its a selfish drug. (not to say that others arent....)

so really if you are going to compare, you have to be spacific about the usage quanity to be fair about both substances.
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