Who are you voting for in November?

[fluffho]

Originally posted by bwind22
First of all, your entire post is a complaint so come on down off your high horse. This is a thread about politics, I was under the impression I could post my political opinions here. Maybe that's not the case...

Secondly, how would you know whether or not I'm involved in politics? You wouldn't. I'm only 24 so, no, I haven't held any political office as of yet. Does that mean that I don't intend to or that I'm not inolved in politics? No. I actually do plan on running for city office in the next decade (Once I own a house and have a city to call my own and represent.) I have always taken an active role in taking care of things I want to get done. I was class president in 8th grade, student council 9th, 10th, and 11th grade and class vice president in 12 grade. While I was in college, I was actively volunteering my time to help other students register to vote.

I can gurantee you I plan to do a hell of a lot more for what I believe in that just sit there and pick from 'a' or 'b'.

Who says cops can't hold public office? Be the commissioner or the chief of police. Stand up for yourself. Raise your voice. Don't be content to be a number in the system.

of course you can post ur opinion, which is what i put to. i never disputed that. when did i ever tell you to shut up? and im complaining. of course im complaining. here are you telling me im wrong for thinking that this are going ok. jjust like i said, while one group is happy, theres gonna be one thats pissed. a never ending cycle

and of course cops can hold councel. but does that i mean i have to? no. i want to be a cop. thats it. most cops dont even want to promote further past detective because the higher up you go means more desk work. thats exactly what politics is, shaking hands and deskwork. me, i want to go out and kick ass. whats wrong with that?

maybe you are involved with politics. good. so whats wrong with me NOT being involved? so now im one of the sheep? and lets say you DO become involved. so now im gonna be one of your sheep? but thats ok right?

i too take things into my own hands, and wont ever stand down to a fight. doesnt mean i want to run for president. what do you think cops do?

look, i stated my opinoin, you stated yours. just like in my previous reply, if thers ANYTHING that pisses me off about tihs site, its all this 'normal' 'sheep' 'going with the flow 'BS. i know there are some people out there that really DO want to stick with whats on MTV, on all the magazines, whats 'in.' but why is it that here everyone jumps on that all of a sudden? i coudl say the same thing about you, i could say id ont nkow 'always complaining, wanting to start a fight, wanting to be different' etc. but i dont.

we are ALLL sheep, just different types.... and no 1 type is necessarily better or worse than another..

[fluffho]

Originally posted by bwind22
I'm not calling you a sheep, but if you admittedly see a problem with the system, yet remain complacent in doing nothing about it, that would make you one.

of COURSE i see a problem. but like i said earlier, one solved is another created. there is ALWAYS going to be a problem.

just like with the rest of your post (that i deleted and am too lazy to get back)... group a and group b. theres gona be those that view kerry as a hero, and those (like urself) who think hes a nutjob. so what? are you gonna go kill yourself if hes elected? am i going to kill myself if george is? is the country going to HOnestly go to the shitter with either of these 2? people said it was going to go to shit with cilnton, siad it was going to wit bush. JUST LIKE there were those that said it would be GREAT with clinton, and GREAT with bush..

THAT is what im complacent abuot. is i realize that theres alwyas going to be the 2 sides. so what? im gonna cry and complain every time i dont get my way? ill let whoever the idiots who are running here in SD worry about that. politicians can stick with politics, ill do my cop thing... etc etc.

[bwind22]

Originally posted by fluffho
of course you can post ur opinion, which is what i put to. i never disputed that. when did i ever tell you to shut up? and im complaining. of course im complaining. here are you telling me im wrong for thinking that this are going ok. jjust like i said, while one group is happy, theres gonna be one thats pissed. a never ending cycle

I never said you told me to 'shut up'. I never said you were wrong either.

and of course cops can hold councel. but does that i mean i have to? no. i want to be a cop. thats it. most cops dont even want to promote further past detective because the higher up you go means more desk work. thats exactly what politics is, shaking hands and deskwork. me, i want to go out and kick ass. whats wrong with that?

No, you don't have to. I think a police officer is a very noble profession. Along with firemen, I feel like they should be payed much more than they are. (I think the salaries of professional athletes and legitimate heros {firemen, paramedics, cops, doctors} should be switched around.)

maybe you are involved with politics. good. so whats wrong with me NOT being involved? so now im one of the sheep? and lets say you DO become involved. so now im gonna be one of your sheep? but thats ok right?

Nothing is wrong with it, but it's just not for me. I don't want sheep, I want individuals with their own opinions which I would listen to and value.

i too take things into my own hands, and wont ever stand down to a fight. doesnt mean i want to run for president. what do you think cops do?

Huh? Cops protect and serve their community.

look, i stated my opinoin, you stated yours. just like in my previous reply, if thers ANYTHING that pisses me off about tihs site, its all this 'normal' 'sheep' 'going with the flow 'BS. i know there are some people out there that really DO want to stick with whats on MTV, on all the magazines, whats 'in.' but why is it that here everyone jumps on that all of a sudden? i coudl say the same thing about you, i could say id ont nkow 'always complaining, wanting to start a fight, wanting to be different' etc. but i dont.

I'm glad that you can make up your own mind on things, that's great to hear. What other thread were you called a 'sheep' in and by whom? You could say whatever you want about me. I don't even know you so it won't bother me, just like what I say shouldn't bother you. But just for shits and giggles, let's go down the list one by one... Whining... Since you seem to call debating 'whining', then yeah, I guess you could use that one. Fighting... Nope. that one's no good. I haven't started one fight on here ever. I've discussed, I've debated, I've conversed, but it's always in a collected and rational fashion. If you can point out one fight I've started in my 1900+ posts, I would love to see it. Wanting to be different... It's not that I want to be different, it's just that I am. I would actually love to be able to have MTV tell what music to listen to and have a Gap or Old Navy commercial tell me what kind of clothes I should wear. It sure would make life a lot simpler if all of my decisions were made by conglomerate corporations.

we are ALLL sheep, just different types.... and no 1 type is necessarily better or worse than another..

I never said I was better than anyone. I think we're all equal all the way across the board, that's why I would like to see the common man's voice being heard a little more.

[fluffho]

Originally posted by bwind22
I don't want sheep

YOU DID IT AGAIN!! AHHHHHHHh!!!!!

were all sheep, and at the same time were all individuals! DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!! (family guy is on so i had to put that)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[bwind22]

Originally posted by fluffho
YOU DID IT AGAIN!! AHHHHHHHh!!!!!

were all sheep, and at the same time were all individuals! DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN!! (family guy is on so i had to put that)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I disagree. We are only sheep if we allow ourselves to become sheep.

And like I said, I don't want sheep, I want individuals.

[fluffho]

Originally posted by bwind22
I disagree. We are only sheep if we allow ourselves to become sheep.

And like I said, I don't want sheep, I want individuals.

depends on how u look at it. just like how things would be boring if we were all the same, thing would be boring if we were ALL different.

[fluffho]

more importantly... whos to decide our individuality? others perception on us, or our own perception of ourselves?

[bwind22]

Originally posted by fluffho
depends on how u look at it. just like how things would be boring if we were all the same, thing would be boring if we were ALL different.

You're right. It all depends on how you are looking at it.




Hey! Look at that! We agreed on something!

I'm gonna end it on that good note because I gotta get going to bed.

Good discussion fluff.


(P.S. You know you'd be one of my sheep now that you heard what I'd do for cops wages. ;) Just kidding. )

Goodnite

[fluffho]

Toodles. Ciao. Auf WIederlesen. BaAaaaAAA

fuck wages. my parents arent even college graduates (not even AAs) yet we still pull in over 100k a year without any help.

but maybe id be ur sheep if u were really hot and doable.

[bwind22]

Originally posted by fluffho
Toodles. Ciao. Auf WIederlesen. BaAaaaAAA

fuck wages. my parents arent even college graduates (not even AAs) yet we still pull in over 100k a year without any help.

but maybe id be ur sheep if u were really hot and doable.

Fuck wages? Okay, you have definately seperated yourself form the American herd with that statement right there. But, I'd still give you a raise because rescue personnel doesn't get paid nearly enough for what they do.

I'm super hot. (If you like skinny, pale, white guys that spend too much time on their computer when they should be sleeping.) But I'm not so doable. You see, I'm engaged and once the knot is tied, I'm off the market. I value not only the word 'marriage', but the meaning of it, too. :D