The Passion...

[The Flayed One]

Originally Posted by Despare

I don't want to debate it but what do you mean here? It all (for the most part) happened. A man who people called Jesus was beaten and crucified. If nothing else it depicts a crucifixion (the word excruciating was invented to describe the pain) of the most violent. Now, believing that he was a savior is your business but the physical depiction was done very well.

It's not that I don't believe that there was a man named Jesus (or Joshua bar Joseph, if you will) that lived. Nor do I have a problem believing that he was crucified. The Roman historian Tacitus states as much, and so does a Jewsih historian or two (although I believe that they say he was the bastard son of a Roman soldier named Panther).

I just have a problem with people telling me I NEED to see this movie, and so do their small children, because that's the way it really happened. Scourging, being made to drag the cross, and whatever else that isn't historically referenced by any other place than the bible, well, it's not my place to say it's fiction. I'm just saying that the idea of telling people to watch it simply because "That's the way it really happened" irritates me. Especially when they're forcing their young children to watch it. That's the reason I put in the Caligula reference. That may or may not have been how it really happened, but woul you suggest to everyone that they need to watch it just because of that reason? I don't think hardcore scenes of Roman sex orgies need to be viewed by everyone because they're historically accurate.

Just my view of the subject matter.

[Despare]

I misread your post in the first place, I thought you were saying it was fiction because instead of Calligula (which I disliked almost from beginning to end) I read Caligary which I thought referred The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari which was to say that Passion was %100 fictitious. Carry on. ;)

[swiss tony]

if you have christian beliefs you should definitely see it amongst others eg. the ten commandments. also, if you are a horror fan it is pretty horrific. one of the few movies where i've just thought 'give us 5 minutes break' in relation to the nastiness. judging by peoples reactions it shows that 2000 odd years haven't made this subject any less controversial, even on a horror site. which is pretty much as far away from religious as you can get. i'll just say this; i'm a hockey fan and i love slapshot, but if i wasn't i'd still watch it for its comedy value. anyway, any film that features satan and gratuitous violence is horror. period! now how about a group hug?:eek:

[urgeok]

Originally Posted by swiss tony

any film that features satan and gratuitous violence is horror. period! now how about a group hug?:eek:

like South Park - the movie ?

[Despare]

Originally Posted by urgeok

like South Park - the movie ?

Yep, and Saturday Night Live.

[slayer666]

Originally Posted by Despare

I don't want to debate it but what do you mean here? It all (for the most part) happened. A man who people called Jesus was beaten and crucified. If nothing else it depicts a crucifixion (the word excruciating was invented to describe the pain) of the most violent. Now, believing that he was a savior is your business but the physical depiction was done very well.

Serious questions have been raised about whether it did in fact happen. There is too much evidence to simply take the myth at face value. See http://home.ca.inter.net/~oblio/home.htm

[swiss tony]

i'll tell you one thing that is fictitious; the amount of punishment he withstands is way more than humanly possible.