Worst Horror Films of The Past Decade

[siorai]

Originally Posted by Ferox13

Do you really think so? How do you explain not a single film ever turning up, especially when police and law enforcement agencies have uncovered the most heinous types of child porn but never a commerially made snuff film.

I just can't see any reason why it wouldn't. Like I said there is a market for anything and everything. Obviously people are interested in seeing violence. This board is absolute proof of that. Of course most of us prefer to keep the violence fake. But do you really think that there has never been someone who not only wanted to see a real death, but also had the means to make it happen? I fully agree with Fearonsarms in that "Money does talk its own language." With enough money at your disposal, anything is possible.

As for the films not turning up, I'm not sure. It's quite possible that some already have, but they get ignored as fakes. Look at Guinea Pig and Charlie Sheen. It's entirely within the realm of possibility to have the situation reversed. Someone finds a real snuff film, turns it in, and the authorities just think it's fake. It's pretty amazing how realistic films can be nowadays so the line of knowing if it's real or not can definitely get blurry. For example, August Underground's Mordum. There's some pretty damn realistic stuff happening in there. Bits and pieces could very easily be thought of as being real. So what's to say someone couldn't see something real and just determine (probably because they deep down don't want to admit the real possibility) that it's just another Mordum-type flick?

The other reason could very well be the hardcore illegality of them. You couldn't just stumble upon something like this. You would really have to know people who trust you implicitly to find out about this. It's not like you go to a party and happen to meet a coke dealer who's willing to upfront tell you he's a coke dealer and immediately sell you some. So I doubt you would see films just randomly being shown or loaned out to friends. It would be a very tight-knit circle of people involved. Look at child porn. It didn't just start within the last couple decades. It's only recently that it's come to the forefront and people are finding more and more of it mainly due to the internet. It's far too easy for people to screw up online and say something to the wrong person. The illusion of anonymity can make people say things they wouldn't face to face. It wouldn't surprise me if within the next 5-10 years we see real snuff be revealed for the same reasons.

Sure, it would be nice to believe that something as heinous as filming the death of someone for pure profit couldn't exist in this world, but this isn't the land of My Little Pony or the Care Bears unfortunately.

[Ferox13]

Originally Posted by siorai

I just can't see any reason why it wouldn't. Like I said there is a market for anything and everything.

This seems alot like the 'logical dictates it so' arguement. I would agree that there are an infinate amount of planets out there and common sense is that at least one must have alien life..

Thats how I feel but there isn't a single shred of proof to say otherwise until then I remain sceptical. Thats not to say I know 100% that there is no Alien life but so far but lack of evidence seems to prove otherwise. That is how I feel about snuff films..

Originally Posted by siorai

The other reason could very well be the hardcore illegality of them. You couldn't just stumble upon something like this. You would really have to know people who trust you implicitly to find out about this. It's not like you go to a party and happen to meet a coke dealer who's willing to upfront tell you he's a coke dealer and immediately sell you some.

Of course not. But you do know that the 2 major ways of the police catching people is 1) In the Act of the Crime and 2) When some one informs on them.

The 2nd is how they catch most drug dealers. They catch some one in possession and they get them to roll over on who gave them the drugs. This is how criminals operate. They rat each other out to save their skins.

I find it hard to believe that if Snuff Movies were being made then there was no one in the circle of production/knowledge who was caught (for any crime - unrelated or otherwise) and was willing to roll over on the fact if they lessened charges...

Keep in mind a snuff movie has never been confiscated by any Law Inforcement agencies EVER...So to get some one inform on knowledge of a real snuff ring would be a Holy Grail of collars...

And theres always that $1,000,000 dollar reward if you can show proof to Mr Goldstein. Do you really think any criminal enterprise would be so air tight..

[siorai]

Originally Posted by Ferox13

Thats how I feel but there isn't a single shred of proof to say otherwise until then I remain sceptical. Thats not to say I know 100% that there is no Alien life but so far but lack of evidence seems to prove otherwise. That is how I feel about snuff films..

As for aliens, how big is the universe and how long have we been looking? it's like looking for a needle in a haystack, pulling out a few stalks of hay and saying that the needle can't be in the stack because we looked. I feel that snuff might be in the same category. It would be a very, very small community. How many man-hours are actually devoted to finding snuff? Probably not many in comparison to those put towards more common crimes. A lack of evidence does not necessarily denote non-existence. It may just be an indication that more time is needed to find it.

And theres always that $1,000,000 dollar reward if you can show proof to Mr Goldstein. Do you really think any criminal enterprise would be so air tight..

I just think that in a community that would be devoted to killing people for profit and entertainment, ratting them out would obviously have very dire consequences. You're dealing with people who have absolutely no regard for human life or any laws. I also would think that $1,000,000 wouldn't be that huge of a sum in comparison to what a snuff ring might possibly pull in since you're talking about a very niche market with very big consequences if caught so the seller could almost name their price.

[Ferox13]

Hey siorai,

Because this debate was going really well AND we were derailed the thread I posted the last few posts from both us to make a new Thread HERE..

So if u want COpy and paste your last post into the Are Snuff Movies real? thread..

[siorai]

Originally Posted by Ferox13

Hey siorai,

Because this debate was going really well AND we were derailed the thread I posted the last few posts from both us to make a new Thread HERE..

So if u want COpy and paste your last post into the Are Snuff Movies real? thread..

Done and done.

So let's get this thread back onto a far more horrific topic than snuff: terrible movies. :D

[Fearonsarms]

Great idea-I think Return To Horror High is pretty terrible it almost saved itself by going into the "so bad its good" category but then ended up being just ridiculous and silly. Disappointing as there was an interesting idea somewhere in it that should have been explored.

[swiss tony]

I bought Thirteen blind as part of a 2 for £10 deal at HMV when I was picking up Where the Wild Things Are for the kids and only made it 15 minutes in. It had the 'Golden Globe Nominee' badges at the top of the cover and I thought 'what the heck'. Big fucking mistake!:mad:

[Fearonsarms]

Oops return to horror high wasnt the last decade so ignore my post that was a mistake

[iSeymore]

Although I am anticipating Scream 4 (2011), I would definately say, although it was 11 years ago, Scream 3 (2000) was awful, the first two were mint. I loved them, except Ghostface does not surmise Freddy Krueger, Freddy Krueger was definately a lot better and scarier than Ghostface.

[BookZombie]

Hallettsville was rather bad, it had odd phasing and the story was very predictable. It is not unwatchable but I would definitely say it leans towards the bad spectrum of the scale. it is not the worst movie of the last decade by far, but neither is it good.