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Old 04-08-2008, 09:20 AM
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Teens beating girl on tape

I need to vent about this. While I was eating lunch at work, I watched the interview on The Early Show with the victim's parents and the sheriff.

I don't understand how kids can do something like this. This would NOT have happened when I was their age. I can't even fathom how I would feel if I were the parent of one of the kids that did the beating. I would probably disown them. I'm not a parent, so I shouldn't even guess as to how I would react. Who do we blame? The parents? The internet? Society? Who? WHAT IS IT that drives kids to do these horribly violent acts? Besides this incident in Florida, there has been a lot of incidences of people being beaten (one man died) on the Philadelphia subways. AND THEY WERE ALL TEENAGERS THAT DID THE BEATINGS!

I don't get it. Somebody please help me to understand it. Those of you out there who are parents - please explain it to me.

OK, rant over. Thanks for listening.
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:29 AM
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yeah i read one about a 20 year old girl in england who was beaten to death for being goth, and trying to protect her boyfriend from being beaten for the same reason.

and it's not just that, its plain old disrespect for people, belonging and your elders. My sister and mostly my brother are always yelling at my parents. Swearing as loud as they can and being disrespectful, with no reprocussions. I'm 2-5 years older than them and I would have never gotten away with something like that!
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:46 AM
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yeah i read one about a 20 year old girl in england who was beaten to death for being goth, and trying to protect her boyfriend from being beaten for the same reason.

and it's not just that, its plain old disrespect for people, belonging and your elders. My sister and mostly my brother are always yelling at my parents. Swearing as loud as they can and being disrespectful, with no reprocussions. I'm 2-5 years older than them and I would have never gotten away with something like that!


"no repercussions"??????!!!!!!! Shit, if I talked like that to my Mom, she would have smacked me so hard across the mouth! I STILL don't talk like that to my Mom!! Maybe you're right mm - my sister never disciplined her kids and she's had nothing but problems with them since they were teenagers.

Guess Dr. Spock wasn't so great after all, eh?
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:55 AM
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Mostly any more parents are afraid to properly discipline their children, with all the nut jobs out there ready to yell child abuse for the littlest things.

You can't blame the media. I was exposed to the same stuff when I was growing up (sometimes worse) and I never pulled any of that shit.

What these kids lack, are positive influence and a damn good ass kicking.
They need regular doses of both. I know from experience.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:04 AM
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It disgusts me. I'm not sure if you have happy slapping in america but basically, people beat others up then film it on their mobile phones.

I'd say it's a mixture of television, parents, the internet, and as time went on, the quest for a reputation and personalities simply became more violent. This then leads to television about it, the bad children grow to be parents and the internet has videos and stories and even games about it. It's a mixture of things causing a continuous loop. I don't think one thing can be solely to blame. Or there's also the Michael Myers theory.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:28 AM
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Teens beat up girl to make 'popular' YouTube video

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Police in Lakeland say the victim was beaten up by six girls when she arrived at her friend’s home.

Two boys stood outside and kept a lookout.

The assaulters videotaped it and threatened to post it on the Internet.

The badly-bruised girl was taken to the hospital with a concussion and damage to her left eye and ear.

The victim's father said the girls wanted to create a video that would be popular on the YouTube.

The mother of one of the arrested girls says that the victim provoked the attack by threatening and insulting the girls on their MySpace pages.








The mother is making excuses for her criminal kid!


To be fair though, this kind of stuff has been happening since people existed. Not videotaping things mind you but violence from teens in general has been common throughout history.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:45 AM
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I think it's stupid when people give a crap about myspace. Like people end up falling out with others if they're not in their top friends list! It really is stupid and the mother deserves to be beaten up by the victims mother because she provoked it by saying nasty things about his daughter!
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:24 AM
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Mostly any more parents are afraid to properly discipline their children, with all the nut jobs out there ready to yell child abuse for the littlest things.

What these kids lack, are positive influence and a damn good ass kicking.
They need regular doses of both. I know from experience.


I have to agree with everything you said. Now, my Mom wasn't a "hitter" - I can remember being spanked twice - but you better believe when she told me to do something, I did it quick!
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But then, my parents disciplined me when I was younger, physically if necessary. I don't think that's the only reason.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:33 AM
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its not about hitting your kid - or not hitting them ... it's about being there for them. spending time with them. instilling your values through osmosis.


its a good chance that a lot of the parents capable of raising little scumbag shitheads capable of something this stupid - dont have the mental tools to deal with kids in any way shape or form.

daddy's too busy climbing the corporate ladder, or mommy's out clubbing with mr crack.
(or vice-versa)

plus the odd kid is wired wrong no matter what.

personally i've never hung around with anyone in my entire life capable of something like this.

when the media figures the kids (with no parental guidence) are preaching to them that being cold is cool .. what do you expect.


the only solution is that fucking useless irresponsible knuckle dragging self centred scumbag lowlife degenerate trailer trash idiots - stop having kids ! neuter them !

but oh no .. they have their rights ...
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