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Old 11-14-2006, 06:47 AM
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The hardest, Most thanksless job. Outside of the home.

Teaching. You couldnt pay me enough to do this. The hours suck, it's thankless a lot of the time, and the pay is terrible. It is definately one of the most noble professions in the world.



But there are a disturbing number of people in this occupation who should not be in it. growing up, i ran into more (Way more) than my fair share of apathetic, uninterested, vengeful, mean, cruel or just plain hateful people as teachers. I can understand that the nature of the job can mold young, idealistic people into bitter old farts, but people should (should... I know....) know when to call it quits with any job.


Its not like people are lured into teaching by promises of becoming millionaires... We all know the pay is crappy. Do i think they should get nmore money? yes. Do i want to pay higher taxes? Not really, but we could probably stand to fund fewer established businesses and government raises in order to do somehting as measly as ensuring our kids get a good education...

It also kills me that so many of them seem to dislike kids so much. Its like they became teachers simply because it gave them authority over a group. My 11th grade english teacher was one of these. He was a horrible man, arrogant and self absorbed. He had several AP classes and several remedial ones. I was in a remedial class. as you may be able to tell, i didnt belong there. He didnt care, and was not interested in hearing that i was previously in advanced classes, and didnt belong inone where the average student read at a 6th grade level. I was reading 6th grade in 4th.

Of course, this situation was a direct result o fwhat happened at my previous school. My english teacher had a job simply because she was the widow of an american military man. She was Philipino with a horrible grasp of the english language and a thick accent, but claimed she had 2 masters degrees in english... MT Pinatubo had blown up half the island so we got stuck with her.

i was part of the 97% of her students that failed that year, mostly due to homework that was never assaigned, but marked as an F because it wasnt turned in. And no, the school board didnt believe any of us until the end of year numbers. She was fired, but an entire section of the sophomore class that year ended up with ruined english records.

The rest of the school staff is as much to blame. I never had a single principal or vice principal that didnt comeoff as an authoritarian sociopath. We had one that looked like the Penguin from the old 60s batman, who routinely had 2 hour long assemblies simply because he LOVED to give speaches...

I have watched the inept, stupid and even (yes, not exagerrating) retarded children of teachers get away with murder because their parents were faculty...

And lets not even get into the whole "Bullying is part of the growing process of school" bullshit. it is mean, and it is wrong. How many more kids need ot get gunned down before they figure this one out?

The last thing i will rant about is testing teachers. MAssachussets has been doing this for a while, and i think it is brilliant. No offense to any teachers here, but if you cant pass a standardized test on your job every year, you shouldnt have it. The rest of us have to be able to perform outr jobs,m and are often called to task to prove it, it is no different from a regular job in that regard. get over it, if you cant pass, then i dont want you fumbling around screwing up my kid's future.


I will stay firmly planted on my soapbox for now, thank you.
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:51 AM
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The only thing I'd disagree with is that the hours suck for teachers. They get 2.5 months straight off every year! That'd be fuckin' sweet!
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Old 11-14-2006, 06:53 AM
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i wanted to be an art teacher.....perhaps not so much now......hmmmmm? tho i have wanted to do a lot of jobs!
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Old 11-14-2006, 07:00 AM
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The only thing I'd disagree with is that the hours suck for teachers. They get 2.5 months straight off every year! That'd be fuckin' sweet!
Well, they do suck for the ones that actually care enough to grade papers during their time at home. I had plenty, however, that would freak out if you missed an assignment,like it was a personal insult for you to have not done what they assigned. These were usually the teachers who wanted you to do an hours worth of work on their subject, and didnt want to hear that they were one of 8 classes you had in a day.

they were also the ones who would take WEEKS to grade youre tests, claiming htey didnt have time at home to take care of our tests. And they wonder why kids target their teachers for crimes....
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Old 11-14-2006, 07:17 AM
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the ideal teacher is a very special person tailormade for the job.

someone with infinite patience, imagination, energy, the capacity for understanding, inspiring, and the ability to treat all kids equally.

unfortunately this is not the criteria for teaching. the criteria is go to school, pass the courses, get a job

sadly that has left us with a very high percentage of incompetent people in the profession.
I've recently seen this myself first hand ...

We've had teachers that can't spell ...their comminications are a joke ..

Also - you can clearly see the ones who have lost interest - they're tired, disconnected ...

Teaching is a demanding job .. your energy flows outward all day and the only time it flows back is when you see a kid 'get it' ... it's pretty rewarding.

the hours arent bad at all ... the prep work doesnt take long if you're organized and the actual in class time is usually under 6 hours a day.
If you get involved in coaching sports then you're out of the class a fair deal as well.

lots of vacation, holidays ... that part is pretty sweet.

i considered being a teacher at one time - then i came to the realization that i hated other peoples kids.

as i grew and matured i came to the new realization that it wasnt the kids i hated - it was/is the parents.
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Old 11-14-2006, 07:39 AM
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I htink the reason a lot fo people hate kids is that anyone can be a parent, and so few seem to care beyond "is the kid breathing?"


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.... No one else seemed to notice this, but i am "Smart" by most standards, and i cant spell to save my life these days. Thank YOU, public schools!
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Old 11-14-2006, 07:57 AM
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.... No one else seemed to notice this, but i am "Smart" by most standards, and i cant spell to save my life these days. Thank YOU, public schools!
sure, blame the system for your short comings...:D :D :D

But seriously, don't blame the schools/teachers/administration. Teach your kids what's important. School is a place to learn about following stupid rules and understanding how bureaucracy works (and hopefully how to manipulate it).

I don't trust the schools to teach my kids (although they do attend) and I don't have the patience to homeschool them - but I do tons of supplemental instruction in the home (mostly history, religion, poetry and mythology - and how these are interconnected.)

Hopefully they grow up to be autodidacts like me.
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:03 AM
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sure, blame the system for your short comings...:D :D :D

But seriously, don't blame the schools/teachers/administration. Teach your kids what's important. School is a place to learn about following stupid rules and understanding how bureaucracy works (and hopefully how to manipulate it).

I don't trust the schools to teach my kids (although they do attend) and I don't have the patience to homeschool them - but I do tons of supplemental instruction in the home (mostly history, religion, poetry and mythology - and how these are interconnected.)

Hopefully they grow up to be autodidacts like me.
I only expect them to do their job in as much as they are supposed to putting forth the effort to teach the kids, as well as protect them. If they are going to jump up and down because young girls are wearing miniskirts and low cut shirts, then they also need to keep the "cool" kids from making life hell for other kids, stop people from bullying, etc etc.


As best they can, of course.
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:21 AM
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sure, blame the system for your short comings...:D :D :D

But seriously, don't blame the schools/teachers/administration. Teach your kids what's important. School is a place to learn about following stupid rules and understanding how bureaucracy works (and hopefully how to manipulate it).

I don't trust the schools to teach my kids (although they do attend) and I don't have the patience to homeschool them - but I do tons of supplemental instruction in the home (mostly history, religion, poetry and mythology - and how these are interconnected.)

Hopefully they grow up to be autodidacts like me.

we do everything to teach our kid what we can outside of school.. but lets face it - we get our kid 2 quality hours a day - he's in the school for 7 .. its the same for most people where both work ...

by the time my kid is 13 teachers will have spent more time with him than we do .. it makes me sick but its reality.
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