Political Opinion, so bare with me.........

[Babygurl20]

This is just my opinion and I wanted to get it out in the open and see if anybody else feels the same way I do. I am so tired of Bush keeping our troops over in Iraq for no reason. We should not be over there at all. They randomly bomb us for no reason and they torture our soldiers when we give their prisoners of war a fucking bed to lay on, food to eat, and a damn roof over their heads. Why should we try to help them when it's obvious they don't want it. Bush's first statement before being re elected was that he would not start a draft. What is the first fucking thing he did when he got in office. Started a draft, and whats worse is he sent the reserves in first!!!!
All this war is about is damn oil. We need to pull our troops out and get them back home where they need to be.
And last, but definetly not least. What is up with Americas Security?? Why in the hell did Bush fly Osamas family out of the states??? He should have left them here and let whatever happens happen. I mean, did the people in Florida who were training these suicide bombers not notice that these fuckers didn't want to learn how to land an airplane or learn how to take off??? Something is seriously wrong here, and it really pisses me off. I don't see all the top dollar people out there giving their lives for a cause that has no purpose. They run and hide and send the little men in to do the dirty work.
Well, I'm through...............like I said, that is just my opinion and ya'll are more than welcome to give me your outlooks on the whole situation.

[StaggerLee]

The whole thing is totally absurd. They go there, piss UN and europeans off, destroy everything and then come back whining that we (europeans that is) should help them to rebuild the place. I would laugh, but there's nothing funny about people getting killed every day because one man's lust for oil and world domination. I know it's not that black and white, but that's how many people feel and I think it's more accurate to put the blame on Bush rather than the whole nation, since most of Americans were and are against the war...

[yourlastmistake]

War for oil?:rolleyes:

[azathoth777]

Originally posted by Babygurl20
This is just my opinion and I wanted to get it out in the open and see if anybody else feels the same way I do. I am so tired of Bush keeping our troops over in Iraq for no reason. We should not be over there at all. They randomly bomb us for no reason and they torture our soldiers when we give their prisoners of war a fucking bed to lay on, food to eat, and a damn roof over their heads. Why should we try to help them when it's obvious they don't want it. Bush's first statement before being re elected was that he would not start a draft. What is the first fucking thing he did when he got in office. Started a draft, and whats worse is he sent the reserves in first!!!!
All this war is about is damn oil. We need to pull our troops out and get them back home where they need to be.
And last, but definetly not least. What is up with Americas Security?? Why in the hell did Bush fly Osamas family out of the states??? He should have left them here and let whatever happens happen. I mean, did the people in Florida who were training these suicide bombers not notice that these fuckers didn't want to learn how to land an airplane or learn how to take off??? Something is seriously wrong here, and it really pisses me off. I don't see all the top dollar people out there giving their lives for a cause that has no purpose. They run and hide and send the little men in to do the dirty work.
Well, I'm through...............like I said, that is just my opinion and ya'll are more than welcome to give me your outlooks on the whole situation.

I agree in general, but on some points...
They randomly bomb us because they hate the US and want us to leave.
They may torture our troops, but we have not been kind to some of theirs either. It was in the news...
Why help them.... if it wasn't for us they wouldn't be in this mess. And it's mostly small groups of extremist fighting and bombing, not the average Iraqi citizen.
Draft... when did he start that. I knew they were trying(and it was Democrats who introduced the bill, not Bush). As far as I knew it had been shot down.

If you really want to be pissed about Bush and such I suggest you read a book called New Pearl Harbor. It's about Bush, 9/11, the Bin Ladens and more. I may not believe every little detail in it, but still, it's very good.

[Babygurl20]

Originally posted by azathoth777
I agree in general, but on some points...
They randomly bomb us because they hate the US and want us to leave.
They may torture our troops, but we have not been kind to some of theirs either. It was in the news...
Why help them.... if it wasn't for us they wouldn't be in this mess. And it's mostly small groups of extremist fighting and bombing, not the average Iraqi citizen.
Draft... when did he start that. I knew they were trying(and it was Democrats who introduced the bill, not Bush). As far as I knew it had been shot down.

If you really want to be pissed about Bush and such I suggest you read a book called New Pearl Harbor. It's about Bush, 9/11, the Bin Ladens and more. I may not believe every little detail in it, but still, it's very good.

You only helped to bring my point more truth. If they hate us so much, why is Bush leaving them over there??? Why not get them out and bring them home??? Instead, Bush publically states that he will not be pulling our troops out of Iraq for awhile. We have done everything that needs to be done, and all we can do wasn't good enough. So get our troops out of there since they hate us so much. And it was Osama Bin Ladan responsible for 9/11 but we seem to have just forgotten about him. How hard could it be to find a man with a towel on his head hiding under a rock???

[azathoth777]

Originally posted by Babygurl20
You only helped to bring my point more truth. If they hate us so much, why is Bush leaving them over there??? Why not get them out and bring them home??? Instead, Bush publically states that he will not be pulling our troops out of Iraq for awhile. We have done everything that needs to be done, and all we can do wasn't good enough. So get our troops out of there since they hate us so much. And it was Osama Bin Ladan responsible for 9/11 but we seem to have just forgotten about him. How hard could it be to find a man with a towel on his head hiding under a rock???

Just leave... a country in civil unrest so another Sadam can muscle his way into power. I always thought going to Iraq was a bad idea, and I really would like the troop home, but there are so many other things to consider. Just leaving at this point is as bad as going in the first place.
Find Osama...well you know Iraq was the target from the start. 9/11 and WMDs were convenient excuses.

[fannyface]

Originally posted by Babygurl20
They randomly bomb us for no reason and they torture our soldiers when we give their prisoners of war a fucking bed to lay on, food to eat, and a damn roof over their heads. .

http://badgas.co.uk/lynndie/

[fannyface]

sorry, it should have been like this:

[Babygurl20]

Originally posted by fannyface
http://badgas.co.uk/lynndie/

I do agree that what THAT GROUP of soldiers did was wrong, but you don't see US soldiers putting beheadings on the internet for everyone to see. One of the rules of war is to not torture your POWs, but Al Queda, or whoever just randomly takes a US citiczen or a citizen of another nation and beheads them on the internet. Now that is breaking the rules of war and that is so fucking wrong to begin with.

[The STE]

well...yeah...but was war ever officially declared, or is this like Vietnam?