Horror in movies and video games

ive played doom 3 lately, and the violence in it matches and in some cases, overwhelms even the biggest slasher flick....what do you guys out there think about the level of violence in video games...i need responses for my media project too...:p

[wufong]

in games where its just killing with out a reason, it's boring(except for battle field 1942) but games like get away where the killings are for a reason then its more fun.

can games teach you to kill? you use the example of battlefield 1942...can it aid hand eye co-ordination in relation to a gun? they say Doom was played extensivley by the collumbine high school killers...

[wufong]

well normally I'll say no. but I was watching this show one night, where they were doing a piece on school yard killings. ( I don't know the school I think it might have been colubine. I'm not sure.)
And this cop was talking about the number kids who died from head shots, he said a good 90% of the victims wounds were from head shots. And he was saying how that it just a amazing and that they were better shots than the swats guys. anywho it turns out the boys who did it fav game was one of those ones where you actually hold a replica pistol and shoot at the screens. supposedly they would spend hours playing it. I'm not saying the game turned them in to killers, but it help with the killing or so they say

[urgeok]

people who are already fucked will be drawn to things that attract them.
pedophiles will get off on the underwear section of a kids clothing catalogue. Those catalogues didn't turn people into pedophiles ...
Everyone who played doom didnt turn into a pathetic loser without the ability to seperate fantasy from reality. Otherwise half the kids in every school would be dead.

The idiots who blame the games, movies, music, are taking the easy way out. Crazy people will always find something to fuel their madness.
It could be the news or history books ...are we going to ban them ?

Flys are attracted to lights. The lights didnt turn them into flys.

what happened is that these kids were either wired wrong at birth or their parents weren't doing their job - or both.

In Doom you kill monsters ... when you start seeing your classmates as 2 dimentional computer generated monsters then you have problems bigger than any game could have given you.

yeh i kno about this one! it was in a book i read, the kid shot eight times and hit eight kids... cops only manage half that... waht im getting at tho is that whilst as a pc gamer from time to time, i dont have the killer instinct...you need more than the skills to kill sum one... that was the problem in WW1- loads of guys shot to miss cos they werent trained to blindly kill, kids are inteligent and can define right and wrong.....and why am i telling you this?... whats youre oppinion?

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Flys are attracted to lights. The lights didnt turn them into flys.

what happened is that these kids were either wired wrong at birth or their parents weren't doing their job - or both.

the point is a good one... but there must be some accountability on the part of the game... the US govenment use Doom as a training simulator...obviously this game either desensitises humans of makes them better at killing

anyone play doom3? its not V good... gimicky and stereotypical...

[wufong]

i hear a lot of those drones that the army uses to spy with have controls a lot like ps2

[urgeok]

but there must be some accountability on the part of the game... the US govenment use Doom as a training simulator...obviously this game either desensitises humans of makes them better at killing

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i think that you have to realize what the mindset is going into the game ..
if the military is using it then people are entering the game knowing what their goal is.

what kid buys doom as a learn how to kill kit ?

i think what it does teach is reaction time and hand eye coordination.
Desensitizing ? maybe ... hard for me to see but possible.
I think maybe moreso with Grand Theft Auto or games like that where people are killing people. They are dissrespectful of human life in general and i agree that there should be some sensitivity and responsibility shown by the makers of these games as they know that kids will be playing them no matter what.
Its not the game that devalues human life as much as the acceptance of it.

I wouldnt have a problem with my kid playing a monster killing game vs a people killing game. Actually we dont even have toy guns around at this point because it's not fantasy anymore.
When i was a lid we played guns - cops and robbers - or the politically incorrect cowboys and indians because we were kids in a small town where these things were as foreign and fantastic as pirates or spacemen.
these days with kids bringing guns to school .. its too much of a reality.

[voltron]

Guns don't kill people, video games kill people.