racial roles in horror film

[fluffho]

to begin, no im not racist.

put aside the monsters (djinn, thing) , lets just say those are green

now flip to the news. what do you see? "alert. woman at stop sign is help up by a black man. man then steals her van, with her 2 boys inside. the man is 6'2...."

so for what.. 1 week they were lookin around for a black guy, every black man was a target. then what do you find out? that she parked the van on a ramp at the lake, let down the emergency brake and let the car roll down, her children strapped to their seats. not a black guy anywhere

yes, this woman planned it. was she sane? hell no. but why would she say black guy? if she had said it was a white man, would it have had the same effect? obviously she wanted to bring in another person to take the focus off of her. and it worked. now law enforcement were more knowledgeable, since the exact sign she had been talking about happened to be where one of the cruisers was watching, but the REST of the society listened to her

ok so anyway. look at horror killers. freddy, jason, leather face, hannibal etc... from the top of my head the majority of them have been white. the only black one i can think of is candy man, and for some reason i think predator is black but ?

do you think they bring race into factor? freddy could have just as easily been a mexican, asian, black man. jason as well.

candy man im not so familiar with, and im pretty sure his story was based in slave times so ok it fit that he was black

go on GOOGLE and type in 'serial killer' and look at the names. many of them have pictures. what are they? white. there is 1 japanese guy, a 3-4 black guys, 3-4 mexicans.. but otherwise white. the typical serial killer is a white man.

if you were out, who would u be more weary of.. the gangster white boy? or the gangster black boy?

could go on more, but ill wait for more input!

[Rotting Eye]

I think it's just Hollywood not wanting to cast black actors. There aren't even many black actors out there, and I'd say even less of Asians, Mexicans, etc... I mean there's Denzel Washington, Halle Berry, Cuba Gooding Jr., and even then, Denzel is the biggest out of all three.

What was the big controversy a couple years ago? Denzel Washington being the first black actor to win a Grammy or whatever the hell it was... For Best Actor. Then followed Halle Berry for Best Actress. And that was only a couple of years ago!

I mean, there's always the token black guy in movies, that's a.. comiedian, not a serious role. Even token Asians are appearing now, say in American Pie, and that stupid SAT movie that's coming up. Making the Grade or some stupid shit like that. The MTV movie.

I'm not racist either, by any means, but this is how America stands. They're not used to seeing people of color as leading roles.

Just my two cents!

[bwind22]

if you were out, who would u be more weary of.. the gangster white boy? or the gangster black boy?

since the 'gangster' white kid is probably just a wannabe, id be less scared of him. on the other hand, if the white dude was some lurking serial killer raving lunatic type, then I might fear him more.

[Rotting Eye]

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[fluffho]

"if the white dude was some lurking serial killer raving lunatic type, then I might fear him more."

but how would u know? gasey, who raped and killed a buncha boys and buried them under his house, was a party clown. now granted a lot of peopl dont like clowns, but ive been to several parties and had them blow me up some balloons.

why are they called serial killers? because they killed 2 or more people. and they were able to because they blended in. a lot of them are business men. some other guy, a lot less known than gasey, ramirez, and dahmer, who killed prostitutes, was a baker. no one ever suspected him

another question. we are quick to point out that the majority of inmates in jail are black, usually around 68%, but always seems like a lot more than that. but most of these, lets say 10-15 years, are in for assault, robbery, or priors. the ones that are lifers usually have killed 1 person, normally in a fight or perhaps spousal issues (ive known a few guys who have walked in on their wives cheating, and told me that they really wanted to kill her). but when it comes to the guy who killed people because of the way their hair looked, and then gutted them and ate their oragans and freeze dried their testicles... its always a white dude

as for tokens, i wonder why they even bother putting in the random asian,black, or mexican. but then again films are nothing different than tv, 5-6 white people with 1-2 minorities. black guy is always funny and a pimp (species II he wanted to hook up with the alien).

why is there no all black horror film? well ok blacula but forget that. does it take a black director and producer to produce one? i live in san diego and i see ALL kinds of people, yet when you watch a movie its pretty much only white people

[donniedarko3]

its already a proven fact that the majority of serial killers are caucasian and have a voting history of voting republican.
Michael Moore already covered all this in the movie "Bowling for Columbine".

[fluffho]

the question is why

[Dr.Kelvinstein]

Because Michael Myers created the archetype of a white, Midwestern kid as the slasher, and for the other slasher archetype, the inbred southern redneck as created by TCM, a black killer doesn't work for obvious social reasons. Besides, there have been plenty of black killers in blaxpoitation horror movies.

[Rotting Eye]

So are you saying that Hollywood doesn't want to portay blacks as serial killers, out of fear that they would be accused of racism?

[StepfatherFan]

Hey, this is a good thread, fluff. I was thinking about doing one about this, but was afraid that I would get yelled at AGAIN, for yet another controversial subject. LOL I don't need any more heat on my ass at the moment. Anyway, I totaly agree with you on everything you said. There have been more black horror films besides Blackula though. Remember Tales from the hood, People under the stairs and Bones? There are several more, but I cant remember the titles. Oh, Blade. It wasn't an all black movie however, but it had a black leading character. Same goes with Spawn. I kind of feel like African-Americans are starting to be more involved in horror films today, more than ever before. With Hip-Hoppers such as Busta Rhymes and Snoop Dogg making appearences in horror flicks, it wont be long before we start to see a good deal of black films emerging into the genre. I only wish 2Pac was still alive because I think he would have been awsome in a scary movie.