|
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|||
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|||||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||
|
#1
11-20-2006, 07:02 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Revenge !!
Got thinking about this because of the Crow thread.
i'm pretty sure what kind of response i'll get because of the nature of the folks in here... myself included. Many many horror movies are about revenge .. or some kind of nasty resolution. we all cheer when the bad guy gets it (unless you're one of those unfathomable people who thought the villians in devils rejects were cool) is that how you feel in real life .. is this a crowd who would hand down a death sentance without hesitation ? 20 years ago i would have said no - i hated the idea of a death penalty ... i know the stats (it doesnt prevent murder... etc) (well it sure as fuck prevents THAT guy from murdering again) but now - after all the evidence of pain and suffering i've seen - at the hands of scumbags that view the world as their own personal playground - i say hell yes ... burn the fuckers alive. no human rights for the people who violated someone elses human right to live. you forfeit your membership to the human race. some folks will say 2 wrongs dont make a right ... i would have said the same thing -- once. but now that i have a family ... and have read the papers and heard the news for the last couple of decades ... i dont consider killing filth a wrong. its just killing the cockroaches under the stove. actually - thats a very unfair comparrison to cockroaches .. sure its a pretty good measure of permanent prevention .. and maybe a deterrent (moreso if we werent so humane about the way we disposed of these fucks .. feed them alive into a meat grinder feet first i say) but in all - i guess the base part of me really wants to see these fuckers get what they have coming to them .. there are horrible consequences for horrible actions. so - how do you like your revenge - hot, cold, or not at all ? 
|
|
#2
11-20-2006, 07:36 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I think I'm heading down the same road you are. For the longest time I was completely against the death penalty. I hate real life violence. The more and more I live, the more fed up I get with the general state of the human race. I'm just about ready to go all out; fuck lethal injection, draw and quarter the bastards. Eye for an eye.
Of course I'm being overly dramatic; I try to be understanding. It's really hard to be optimistic and a good natured person when everyone else seems to be vicious, backstabbing lying bastards deep down inside. I try to find happiness by being kind and polite to everyone. Every day it gets harder and harder to do. It's making me become a hermit. I used to believe that everyone was truly a good person at heart. Now I've come to terms with the fact that some people really are just plain bastards with no redeeming qualities what-so-ever. Fuck 'em, let them fry.
__________________
|
|
#4
11-20-2006, 08:08 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I'd have to say I'm the complete opposite
As a child and a teen I loved the idea of revenge, retribution, giving it to the bad guy. As I age I see more grey area, less certainty...and an absolute belief that I am not one to judge others. I no longer believe that "justice" exists and that the pursuit of it is a waste of effort and an exercize in frustration. I find that seeking revenge is an extreme example of trying to exert control...which I have also come to believe is an illusion. The more you try to controll, the less happy you will be, because you are strugglin to do what cannot by done...it's a Sisyphean effort that can only do you harm. I have become less judgemental and more open in my age. And have found that I am a great deal happier this way. Probably one of the reasons I love revenge movies so much. It's a cathartic fantasy. In real life it's much messier and more complicated and no one walks away from revenge unscathed. But then again, this is just my way and I know that my way is not everyone's.
__________________
"Little, vicious minds abound with anger and revenge, and are incapable of feeling the pleasure of forgiving their enemies." Earl of Chesterfield "A man that studieth revenge keeps his own wounds green, which otherwise would heal and do well." Francis Bacon
|
|
#5
11-20-2006, 08:12 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
rod - you fucking hippy !
just kidding - i know its a better way to be ... and i dont watch horror films for the gratification of seeing the bad guys getting smoked - so it's still fantasy in my mind. but unfortunately the poison of the real world has leaked into my brain and spoiled a part of my mind forever. who knows, maybe at a later stage of my life i may have a different more positive view .. but probably not. i'll just continue to become a bent up old contankerous fart, yelling at the kids who walk on my lawn.
|
|
#6
11-20-2006, 08:18 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Well I do that all the time! fuckin' kids *grumble, grumble*
__________________
"Little, vicious minds abound with anger and revenge, and are incapable of feeling the pleasure of forgiving their enemies." Earl of Chesterfield "A man that studieth revenge keeps his own wounds green, which otherwise would heal and do well." Francis Bacon
|
|
#7
11-20-2006, 08:21 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
Some misguided people decided I was funny enough to pay. See if they're right: http://www.cracked.com/members/Vodstok/ (I tweet pretty hardcore, too)
|
|
#8
11-20-2006, 08:22 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
My emotion on this varies and I can not ever seem to tie down a definitive yes or no about it because like life it has too many grey areas.
I do think Justice is Blind as well as deaf and stupid. Law and the people that defend it are lacking common sense sometimes. I mean how else can you explain the judge that gave a repeated child molester a walk? If you harm a child, death would be too damn easy-torture the fuckers for years and then let them get raped repeated with sharp objects till they bleed there last worthless drop of blood. Murders-well, there are different reasons for murder-some of them actually make a hell of a good idea. Take a woman that has been torn down mentally and battered for years upon years and finally one day just snaps and blows her abuser away...I say give her some therapy and send her on her way. Murder over stupid shit like drugs-a life behind bars seems fair. I don't feel this way all the time though (except for pedophiles) Sometimes I think if people who did crimes got punished a little more severely would bring about a strong message to other people considering doing a crime and the vicious cycle would stop and we could all LOVE each other and give kissy and huggy to all and never kill all the cute little aninals and live in peace and harmo..........yeah RIGHT. Fuck it. this planet is fucked no matter how you slice it.:) Last edited by novakru; 11-20-2006 at 08:25 AM.
|
|
#9
11-20-2006, 08:25 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
as far as i'm concerned - abusive husbands are in the process of murdering their wives .. only they take their time. i have no sympathy for those cocksuckers either (wife abusers) ... there is NO excuse...
|
|
#10
11-20-2006, 08:34 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I see no problem with the death sentence providing the crime was worthy of it. I just think it should be done quicker and cheaper so our prison population is polluted with people on death row who cost thousands to kill. I think the dealth penalty should be instated for child rape/murder and personally I think rape (forced rape not "I was drunk when I said yes." which is still bad but...) in cases should carry the sentance. If a man has it in his head to beat and rape a girl to get what he wants then there's something wrong with him that incarceration won't fix.
"Death penalty trials cost an average of 48% more than the average cost of trials in which prosecutors seek life imprisonment" Legal crap, always. As far as movies there are a lot of gratifying revenge flicks. Crow, Leon, I Spit on Your Grave, Oldboy, Gladiator, Memento, and Count of Monte Cristo. Who couldn't smile when Inigo looked to be getting beaten but simply got back to his feet only to plaw forth with, "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father prepare to die." *SAW spoilers* The movie comparrison really translates well if you viewed Saw the day it released in the theaters. When you watch it and Zep enters the bathroom only to get a severe beating by the toilet tank cover wielding photography the theater clapped and cheered. Now they thought he was the one who killed everybody when in fact he merely kidnapped the doctor's family and was GOING to kill them. Had they found out he wasn't the real "bad guy" I wonder if they would have applauded...
__________________
Last edited by Despare; 11-20-2006 at 08:42 AM.
|
 |
|
|
