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Old 05-02-2005, 04:58 AM
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Suspending your disbelief

There are very few horror movies that would work if people behaved normally, and the laws of nature weren't blatantly ignored.

Where i can appreciate these re. understanding why they are
neccessary it still makes me appreciate the movies that pay a bit of attention to reality. Most of these movies would end in the 1st 10 minutes because they just arent smart enough to survive without liberal amounts of bullshit.

vampires are a pretty good example of what i mean.

1) they are super strong. So what makes them strong ?
there are law of physics and anatomy that determine strength.
They are still flesh and blood .. the same tissues, muscles, etc.
(they bleed when they get cut - you kill them with wood through the heart).
You can make someone appear stronger by cutting off their pain sensors .. but all they are doing is ignoring the body's natural alarm system for impending damage. Sooner or later things break.

2) they can fly ... how ? they get super light ? how do they aim themselves ? How do theyt stop ??

3) they can shape shift. A 150 lb man into a litle bat ?
You cant change density ... if you could it would be a 150 lb bat.



I'be already mentioned a couple of other pet peeves in different threads ...

1) slashers ... the killer that can shuffle faster than a running youth.

2) thrillers ... the evil genious carries out a cat and mouse plan with the police so dependant on the perfection of timing .. and someone smart enought to recognize and solve clues.
In the real world these things wouldn't work.

Here's another ... there is a killer on the loose .. 10 school friends have been slaughtered ... the girl hears a noise outside in the middle of the night but she puts on a robe lying on the bed (who does that ??) and goes out on the porch to look around, leaving the door wide open with plenty of room for a marching brass band to sneak into the house behind her.


I'm probably the only person who thinks about this ever ...
most times i can just sit back and enjoy - but other times i just shake my head wishing for a little common sense .. which to me causes me to buy into the film more .. become more immersed ... therefore its more enjoyable for me
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Re: Suspending your disbelief

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There are very few horror movies that would work if people behaved normally, and the laws of nature weren't blatantly ignored.

Where i can appreciate these re. understanding why they are
neccessary it still makes me appreciate the movies that pay a bit of attention to reality. Most of these movies would end in the 1st 10 minutes because they just arent smart enough to survive without liberal amounts of bullshit.

vampires are a pretty good example of what i mean.

1) they are super strong. So what makes them strong ?
there are law of physics and anatomy that determine strength.
They are still flesh and blood .. the same tissues, muscles, etc.
(they bleed when they get cut - you kill them with wood through the heart).
You can make someone appear stronger by cutting off their pain sensors .. but all they are doing is gnoring the body's natural alarm system for impending damage. Sooner or later things break.

2) they can fly ... how ? they get super light ? how do they aim themselves ? How do theyt stop ??

3) they can shape shift. A 150 lb man into a litle bat ?
You cant change density ... if you could it would be a 150 lb bat.
There are a lot of things in real-life that just don't make sense. If vampires existed, I don't see why they couldn't go against these laws (I mean they're already the freakin undead bam there's one law down...). I have no trouble suspending my disbelief.
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Old 05-02-2005, 06:22 AM
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There are a lot of things in real-life that just don't make sense. If vampires existed, I don't see why they couldn't go against these laws (I mean they're already the freakin undead bam there's one law down...). I have no trouble suspending my disbelief.

re real life .. yeah ,, but i'm talking laws of nature here ..

and yes .. i realize the back from the dead thing ... same as zombies .... i was reserving that one as a given...

but after that there are still thing that 'just happen' that bug me sometimes - not all the time .. depends on my mood and how many dumb things i've seen in a row ..
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re real life .. yeah ,, but i'm talking laws of nature here ..

and yes .. i realize the back from the dead thing ... same as zombies .... i was reserving that one as a given...

but after that there are still thing that 'just happen' that bug me sometimes - not all the time .. depends on my mood and how many dumb things i've seen in a row ..
We don't know whether or not there was a beginning to the universe. How does that make sense? How could there have been a time without it, and if it always existed... There will always be things that don't make sense, not everything fits perfectly into place.

"Monsters" are freaks of nature, an unnatural thing or person that is extremely unusual and not like any other of its type. There's really no reason why they couldn't fly, teleport etc. A Vampires very existence goes against nature.
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I usually just go with the flow.Especially concerning horror or sci-fi movies.Crime or thrillers, on the other hand, can be a bit unbelievable.Certain plot devices are a bit more far-fetched.
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We don't know whether or not there was a beginning to the universe. How does that make sense? How could there have been a time without it, and if it always existed... There will always be things that don't make sense, not everything fits perfectly into place.

"Monsters" are freaks of nature, an unnatural thing or person that is extremely unusual and not like any other of its type. There's really no reason why they couldn't fly, teleport etc. A Vampires very existence goes against nature.
hard to argue that logic ..

i guess its just a goofy thing on my part ..


ok .. forget vampires then and tell me this ..

why do cars never start when you're being chased by a killer ..
and HOW does Jason keep catching up to people who run ??
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and HOW does Jason keep catching up to people who run ??
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blading in the woods ?
then he truely does have superpowers !!
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blading in the woods ?
then he truely does have superpowers !!
How about

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How about

problematic on soft ground - plus it requires 2 hands.
where is he going to put his machette.,

plus with the bouncing up and down his mask will fall over his eyes and he wont see where he's going.

PLUS the motion is more up and down .. not forward - at least not with any speed.

this wont work at all.


you really didnt think this through did you ...
you were going for a cheap laugh ... well let me tell you mister .. it doesn't work.

now answer the god damn question properly before i loose my temper !!!


SHIT ! you dont see me highjacking other peoples threads with foolish nonsense do you ??
DO YOU ???
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