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Originally Posted by cheebacheeba
No reasonable excuse for what?
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For having child actors in a strongly pornograhic movie, ESPECIALLY one dealing with paedophilia - and for including those child actors in scenes of a more or less sexual nature.
That can't exactly be compared to Friday the 13 (as you suggested), where actors are being chased around by a guy in a hockey mask - actors who, although some of them are young, know exactly what they're doing. I don't see how that can be compared in any way to having small children participate in scenes with a sexual content - something they are not even old enough to fully understand and consent to.
Also, no one is actually hurt in Friday the 13th. No one is being stabbed or cut for real. In A Serbian Film, children are being subjected to inappropriate behaviour for the sake of making a movie about just that...
I just searched "Serbian film clip" on youtube, to try to find an actual example of what I have a problem with. This was the first suggestion that came up, and probably the best example of them all. I realise that there are heavily cencored versions of the movie, so perhaps you haven't seen this one? Do you really think this is an appropriate way to instruct a child actor to act? And although SOME of the dialogue could have been said without her in the room, you can unfortunately see that not all of it is...
And although there is no harm done in the act itself of touching someone's knee, does it make it ok just because she might not understand the sexual meaning behind the act (in the movie)... and even if she does, it she really old enough to consent to having paedophiles get off on seeing her touch an adult man in a way which, in the movie, is certainly meant to be flirtatious and sexual?
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Originally Posted by cheebacheeba
You sound a bit critical to be honest
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Yes, I'm very critical of paedophilia and of inappropriate behaviour around children, and I would be offended if you didn't think I was.
As for the movie in general, you are right, I didn't think it was a good movie either, but! - I made a point of saying that I do not have a PROBLEM with the movie simply because of what I think about it in general - I also said that although I personally don't think baby rape is entertainment, it IS a doll, it's fake.
My one and only
problem with the movie is that there are actual children involved. Yes, there are child actors in many horror movies, and yes, some of those movie have sex scenes - although not with the child actors present. But in this case, we are talking about children participating in scenes with a sexual content, in what is for the most part a violent porn movie involving child rape.
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Originally Posted by cheebacheeba
Now, I don't really think I've made these points on the basis of intellectual grounds, pseudo or otherwise, nor is it trying to get you convinced that it's actually a great film and you should cut it a break.
It's simply saying what I thought and why, while being mindful enough of the things I say, so that I don't inadvertently attack anyone for their difference of opinion.
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My post was not aimed at you personally, but there has, as you know, been quite a lot of debate about this movie, and not just here. I don't have a problem with anything
you've said, or the way you said it, although I don't agree with you. Like you, I am simply stating my personal opinion.
So I am sorry if you saw it as some kind of personal attack - my post was not even a reply to you in particular, it was just my thoughts about this movie and all the controversy surrounding it in general.