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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ
The Ralph Bakshi stuff it was knocking off definitely had a lot more underlying themes to it. My major gripe was that it just wasn't very interesting compared to a lot of the animated stuff out there. I was honestly hoping for something like his animated segment in Beavis & Butthead Do America.
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Maybe that's what bothered me about it...
First, that kind of animated aesthetic doesn't really appeal to me, but I can definitely see the point and the influence of something like
Fritz the Cat. While it might not be something that I choose to see again, I can definitely see the underlying themes (that one in particular I thought was a pretty horrifying depiction of society; I was more disturbed by the violence than by the porn in it, which I thought made it a very smart film)... With
El Superbeasto it's definitely out of context; I look at something like that and think, what's the point? I mean, I can understand wanting to make an homage to a genre that you appreciate, but I don't think that
El Superbeasto was anything other than vulgar, repulsive, and pointless... And I don't even have particularly delicate sensibilities.
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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus
I don't think everybody gets Zombie's movies. They're smart and almost annoyingly postmodern. The problem with Halloween actually is that he couldn't balance the postmodern elements with the splatpunk ones and the source material. I didn't like Devil's Rejects as much as House because it's too damn cerebral and not nearly as intuitive.
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I think you have a point... Honestly, I thought that
House of 1000 Corpses was a perfect balance between postmodern horror and splatter. I thought that it was great splatterpunk with a fantastic crescendo and climax of gore. I thought it was absolute brilliant film making.
With the
Halloween movies, I can see what he's trying to do, but ultimately I don't think that they work.
Halloween wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't a remake. For me, personally, I adore the original movie and I don't think that it was necessary to give Michael Myers a motive or peer into his psyche. I like him as just a pure monster... If Zombie was creating a New Monster; a New Serial Killer, I think that the first movie would have been pretty good. It was a decent slasher, and for those who enjoy looking into the background and psyche of the killer, it's right up your alley.
As for the second film, it's not so much that I don't "get" what he was doing; I just didn't like it. I thought that the visions and symbolism were a bit silly, to tell you the truth. Even taking that one autonomous from its original, I wouldn't have enjoyed it... Which is odd; I thought that Zombie excelled with
House of 1000 Corpses but failed with
Halloween II. It's also a shame because I thought that the open 10 minutes or so of
Halloween II in the hospital were bloody brilliant horror... I really wish that the movie had been straight up slasher just like that... But it's clearly not what he wanted to accomplish.