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Originally Posted by Angra
Why are Oldboy and Lady Vengeance on the list???
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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl
See, I would have to argue with you here. I think that Oldboy and Lady Vengeance most certainly qualify for horror. With Oldboy, Park is exploring Gothic Horror (dickensian horror) to its extremities. It's horrifying. It's pulp. And it's iconic. It's the struggle of the human condition against itself and against all odds. And there are certain twists in the film that are honestly horrifying.
It's the same argument that Doc uses for Ichi - It's as much psychological horror as it is pulp action. I would definitely consider Oldboy horror.
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Originally Posted by Angra
First off, Godzilla sucks.
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You can't deny Godzilla's status of influential monster movie icon.
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Originally Posted by Angra
Second, funny you should mention the low budget for Ju-on the grudge 2, coz as i see it it's the ju-on movie with the biggest budget and the best effects. I also liked a lot of Shimizu's ideas in this one, especially because they seemed new and original and not JUST rehash, as i thought was the case with his former 2 ju-on movies.
Yes, maybe the story itself was a little weak, but then again, the story is pretty much the same in all the ju-on and Grudge movies. I watch them for Shimizus creative mind.
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Then why the hell did it look like ass?
I don't think that it looked any higher budget than the first one. I thought that the ghosts and special effects looked painfully cheap and tacky where in the first one and in Rinne I thought that the ghosts and folly work were both brilliantly well-done.
Ju-on 2 was just painful to watch.