Ooook... Here we go.
Watch it, Old Man...
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you so claaaazy !!!
ok .. the glove has been dropped.
here's why i personally think monsters inc is the best kids movie ever made.
(and let me first say that i am NOT a fan of Billy Crystal or John Goodman - to me - neither of them transitioned well to film .. i still see them as second rate TV actors - so by all rights i shouldn't like this film as much as i do)
1) the animation is gorgeous and imaginative. the monster characters are really well done. the 'doors' sequence was incredible
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Agreed. I'm a sucker for good animation and this movie was quite impressive and gorgeous.
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2) a lot of fun animation in jokes to keep the adults amused
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Agreed. It was playful and clever. I would say that its parts were greater than the movie as a whole, though.
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3) the disney formula of killing a parent/sibling for easy emotional buy-in was abandoned. (see lion king/nemo/every other fucking Disney film) NOBODY HAD TO DIE !
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Good GOD I agree with you - That's such a relief to me. As someone who's actually lost a parent, I've actually started getting offended by this new archetype in children's movies. Hits a little too close to home.
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4) the story was BRILLIANT ... wow Chrono - here we disagree the most. Maybe its because i have a kid but to me this film is the smartest, most effective, and most entertaining way of showing kids there is nothing to be afraid of in the dark i've ever seen in my lifetime. The monsters are more afraid of you than you are of them ?? brilliant !! Add some adventure thanks to a bad apple ... and i think you have a flawless story - and the resolution was fantastic as well ... both the fate of the bad guy and the new form of power. (laughter is more powerful that fear .... )
And it did it without being sucky.
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Maybe I misspoke.
See, I really liked the concept of the parallel Monster World and the BIZARRO (if you will) reversal of the Monsters being afraid of children.
The plotline of the
return journey, however, I found disappointing and a waste of interesting characters and settings. Though, this might speak more to me personally; I find that I get easily annoyed when children are created in animated films just simply to be cutsie. I realize that the point is so that the children watching the film can connect, but, well, obviously it's not for
me. I found her more annoying than anything else.
So maybe it more more the
vehicle (lost child) than anything else that I found insipid... Though I totally understand your reasoning - She is obviously the character that children should be relating to - I just didn't (that's not to say that adults
can't;
I just didn't.
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5) I'm a sucker for a bittersweet ending and i hate cheesy manipulative tear jerking disney bullshit - but the way this film ends - gets me in the heart every time ... subtle and touching as hell.
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I think that because I found the Human Child to be annoying that the emotional ending just didn't connect to me.
Or maybe you're just a big softie. ;)
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honestly - its one of the few movies i feel so strong about that i cant get my head around anyone not liking that. i'm usually far more impartial than that.
but if you consider this film overrated - then you're only talking about me - because the general public really paid no mind to this film ... proving again that the lowest common denominator is always satisfied with the same hamfisted bullshit formula over and over again.
kill kids parent ... kid grows through adversity and becomes a strong man/woman. yahoo ....
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Weird... I actually thought that people went crazy over it; I didn't see that it was bypassed by people.
But back to the topic - Sorry if my "overrated" assessment offended you. SO not my intention. And, quite frankly, I didn't think that it was a horrible film at all. I think that part of my HUGE problem with the movie is incredibly personal; I'm actually pretty sure that I went into the movie with MASSIVE expectations which, too tell you the truth, would have been difficult to satisfy. That coupled with the fact that I found the film much, much more cutsie than I had anticipated really disappointed me.
Maybe THAT'S the better assessment. I was
disappointed. But I probably just built it up too much in my mind.