I was about to start this post with "I apologise", but I feel that since I'd only be apologising for people taking things I've said the wrong way, it'd only be on your behalf, so...I'll just get into it.
None of my comments were intended to offend directly, just point out a very obvious issue, which many of you seem to have missed, or ignored due to my approach. Think about it...it's like ignoring valid information from a teacher, because you don't like them, no? Yes, before someone points out the obvious (which they'll no doubt see HERE, even though they're blind to it elsewhere) I am not a teacher. I use the comparison only because I'm providing information which is relevant, whether or not certain people choose to accept it.
You don't like my approach, find me offensive, arrogant, and whatever else, fine...why? Because you are the otherwise nonexistant-to-me people that dwell an internet forum, your opinion, I will not take to heart, nor will I let it stop me from calling you an ass when I think you're being one. You have the right to call me out on any points you feel are valid, and you've done so...however, if all you can do is pick on the way I come across...I wouldn't bother.
Feel free to take a page there.
My comments weren't about parenting in general, they weren't about "the culture is wrong...etc", however, they WERE about the very real bullshit a child, or anyone receives when they adopt this largely negatively perceived culture. Now, I maintain that if this child saw only photos, nothing more than the visual aspects would've registered, and any additional input or information was presented. I really doubt they asked. You don't see a photo of a car and wonder what tunes it's playing, do you? No. Hence, something that could well be a passing phase is being reinforced from an outside party, when you do this, and start letting them cruise related websites...etc...it's further reinforcement, the point I was trying to make. Is it wrong to encourage your child to explore things? Not neccessarily, but I think there's always going to be factors that someone should consider before openly endorsing something that'll potentially bring negative input to your child.
C'mon, you guys KNOW this.
Theres always people, and a lot of them, that see a person so much as dressed in predominately black, and calls them a fucking freak...there's always parents that'll look at your child and wonder "what on earth is wrong with that family!?" There's always teachers and school councellors that will make it their business to get in yours, making reports about what they perceive to be "your bad parenting" even if you're raising a perfectly normal, healthy child (regardless of what they wear and what music they listen to), and there's no wrongdoing on your part whatsoever. Not to mention the other kids. Kids, are largely insensetive little cunts, and constant teasing of anything "different" to them WILL ensue, and WILL effect a child of that age. Take it further than that, and you've got certain authorities wanting to investigate your parenting, something that could only be traumatic.
That is my main point, it's not about exposing them to the wrong thing, it's not about your parenting, it's about this...Does their interest put them in harms way? Does it invite emotional damage? Is your child old enough to be "a goth" at the cost of on the receiving end of all this bullshit, at so young an age?
I DON'T think these issues have been remotely considered, and I think they ought to be, so I have bought them to your attention.
Don't ignore reality because you don't like me personally, if you do, you're a fool - and whoever, can take that however the fuck they like.
There's no hard feelings on my part, so there may as well not be any on yours.
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I only find anyone's opinion offensive if they dismiss others responses as *defensive"
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Obviously. The responce and counter to offense, is defense. If you found my statement offensive, which you evidently did, then it was a fair assumption that anyone responding with a differing point of view would be on the defense...which isn't a bad thing...because I don't have to be right, in order to bring about a defensive statement. I can know I'm right, without invalidating any counterpoints, and always invite a person to respond. In this case, I said "there's no point" simply because it wouldn't be received by me, because of these issues I've indicated...they will ALWAYS be there no matter how much you'll argue how much a good idea you think it is, you cannot erase the nagative aspects, nor can you convince me that I'm personally incorrect about these issues, because I've seen it time and time again, firsthand.
I mean hey, I'm HERE defending MYself, do I think that makes me wrong? No...just trying to better explain a point to a few folks who seem to have missed it because they don't agree with my other perspectives.
Now, if you have anything else to point out aside from how horrible an asshole I am, feel free. For the record, there's a difference between keeping your child in a closet, and responsible guidance.
And no nova...what I said wasn't just to piss you off....you give yourself way too much credit. You're a person who annoyed me slightly a few years ago, and they got uppity when I pointed out you were being a bitch. Ever since, apparently everything I've ever said to you, or in your thread has been another attempt at a stab in your side. Get the fuck over yourself, yeah? It's SAD.
Stubbs...Vampiric...probably the only two people in here that have tried to understand the overall point I'm making despite the presentation. I commend you on your maturity, and stubbs, I appreciate, and understand your outlook on the issue at hand. Glad to have some people who take some time to think before they post around here;)
Again, no hard feelings folks...I can't say I think it'll happen, but I am not looking for some huge ongoing argument, and I'd prefer it if it wouldn't spill out any further. You had your points, I had mine. Differing opinions. It happens.
....and I'm out.