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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ
I love blood drenched flicks but where do you draw the line? I recently watched the first two Guinea Pig flicks and started to wonder. I passed on my copies to a friend because I don't ever really wanna watch them again.
I watched them by myself and wasn't really fazed but me and a bunch of friends were pretty wasted and we watched a couple of the more fucked up scenes and it really bothered me. I even left the room at one point haha :D
I can handle the extreme stuff more in the context of a splatter flick but the psuedo "snuff" really made me question why I would even want to watch this kinda shit. But I'm glad I checked them out because it was an experience.
I've got a copy of Nacho Cerdà's Aftermath on the way to me has anyone checked that out? Its sounds pretty extreme from the reveiws I've read but it seems like it's more artistic than the torture porn of Devil's Experiment and Flower of Flesh and Blood.
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I have seen both of the first two Guinea Pig movies and Aftermath.
The first Guinea Pig film, to me, was much more distasteful than the second. There wasn't as much blood/gore in it, but the things being done were far more nasty and distasteful. They just beat/tortured the girl for the whole film - most of it wasn't shot for gore, it was shot for cruelty. I think that felt a whole lot different to Flower of Flesh and Blood.
FoFaB seemed much more a showcase of special effects. It was seriously over the top re: gore, but somehow just didn't feel as cruel as the first one (perhaps because the victim was unconscious or semi-conscious due to being drugged?) It was, however quite well made (although not necessarily entirely anatomically correct - at least in some parts).
I don't think either of these films really pushed my buttons (although I know some people for whom they have). They were OK for a watch, but they don't really have any great repeat value, probably because there is really no plot/story. If anything, FoFaB probably has more repeat value than DE just for the special effects.
Aftermath is a whole other ballgame. It is artistic. It looks beautiful in some senses, and quite vile in others. Whilst films like the Guinea Pigs and August Underground films are shot to look gritty and "real" (ie the fake snuff line); Aftermath is obviously produced and orchestrated. Classical music, stark sets, and quality production values are juxtaposed with scenes of defilement and depravity. There are some reasonable special effects, and some shock value, but I found myself pondering its message in a way that one obviously wouldn't after seeing the likes of Guinea Pig. I would recommend Aftermath as a very worthwhile viewing if the potential viewer had an open mind didn't mind seeing things that pushed boundaries.