[bloodrayne]

Originally Posted by urgeok

well, i think your analogy breaks down here .. your posts suggests that horror is ok because it's fake, and nudity (which you keep curiously equating with sex - is real) but porno (which i never mentioned - just nudity) is ok if it's a porno you want..

*sigh*...Let me try again...I equate sex with nudity, because in most (not all, but most) movies where there is nudity there is sex, about to be sex, or just had sex, people have sex when they're naked...As for ME, I have no interest in watching people have sex, or seeing people naked...As for my son, he has no interest in sex (he's 11), and needs not to have any interest piqued yet, and I was hoping that the first time he saw a woman naked it would be something special for him...I would like for him to remain innocent of adult matters until he is an adult...If he has seen a million naked chicks before he even has a girlfriend, how special will his first experience really be?...How much MORE special might it have been?...I don't think I can explain it any better than that...and I'm trying like hell...lol

As for the porno thing...I personally would never watch a porno...I'm just saying that if I wanted to see naked people, I would watch a porno...And I would be surprised if people were getting their guts ripped out in a porno...And I would never allow my son to watch a porno...

Originally Posted by urgeok

personally - I think north american sex senes ARE boring as hell.. its about as appealing as cleaning fish...

I agree...which is another reason that I'd rather keep it out of my horror movies...

I have nothing against nudity or sex...In fact I LOVE nudity and I can't get enough sex...BUT...I wouldn't have sex in the grocery store, it's the wrong place for it, as is a horror movie (in MY opinion)...And, again, I have no desire to see any strangers naked...AND, my son doesn't need to see it AT ALL...Not yet, anyway...

Okay...I'll break it down like this:

For ME: It's boring and wastes time that could be spent on something 'horrorish'...and I REALLY do not want to watch other people have sex...

For my kids: It limits which movies they can watch, and that sucks...And it isn't just a matter of me not wanting them to see it, THEY don't want to see it either...

I can't make it anymore simple than that

Originally Posted by urgeok

i love the way europeans are completely aware that its a natural part of being human... and they celebrate it.

Agreed...But...Can't we leave something for the kids to look forward to when they're adults?